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Wheel nuts - Safety

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Hello everyone!

I'm a recent owner of Ford Focus and to ask you guys if any of you have safety nuts on the wheels? I want to put some on my rims.

thanks in advance



what do you mean ?

depending on the design of wheel, the bolt or nut MUST have the correct seat face to match the wheel design and to ensue the fastening sits concentric - you then tighten them to 50 to 60 lbs ft of torque and they never loosen

aka angled ones for steel wheels, and usually a flat face on older alloys - also relates to the hub design - so can be either on alloys

If you mean locking wheel nuts / bolts - they usually fail causing the owner / garage fun - so tyre places do them up much looser than the other fastenings, meaning the hoddies steal what they want with full police support

but might give you piece of mind and slow morons or at least discourage, so they steal your neighbours tyres instead

 

3 hours ago, Botus said:

If you mean locking wheel nuts / bolts - they usually fail

I've had these for decades and never had a problem. 

 

3 hours ago, Botus said:

tyre places do them up much looser than the other fastenings, meaning and the hoddies steal what they want with full police support

I really don't know what this means.

29 minutes ago, alanfp said:

I've had these for decades and never had a problem. 

 

I really don't know what this means.

I'd have to agree with the failure of locking nuts. All 4 x nuts on mums Toyota Yaris (genuine Toyota ones), all seized up causing a real headache for the tyre place, though they eventually got them all off and I replaced with standard ones. I also had 2 seize on my Celica, and a further failure on my Supra before that. They're a darn nuisance!

I've always replaced my locking nuts with standard ones. The various garages I go to have thanked me/commented on multiple occasions that t makes their job so much easier as they don't need to spend ages trying to free the locking nut. 
I've never had sought after alloys though, so I tend not to be worried about them being poached. 

1 hour ago, alanfp said:

I've had these for decades and never had a problem. 

 

I really don't know what this means.

as you'll see most other owners report them being problematic - people over torque, and the locking element isn't as strong as a std bolt head - so you end up unable to get the wheel off - as others report the garages hate it - now imagine at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere and you have every other nut undone but not the locking one - then you die !

and the second part, to avoid the issue tyre places and sensible garages deliberately do not torque the locking nut up as tight - thus making the road wheel less secure than its meant to be and sadly allowing thieves to get them off too

hence the idea is just problematic - the easy cure is the police do their job - but that's not the game your politicians ask them to play...  but most lemmings haven't worked that out yet

No issues here with running locking nuts 👍

Mine get torqued same as rest of the wheel nuts and never any issues getting them off when I swap between my Oz’s and standard wheels

Yes, I too have had problems with the McGard wheel nuts culminating with having to go to the local National Tyres place and pay a humiliating amount of money for the removal of 2 very stubborn lug nuts.

I replaced all the locking nuts on the 3 cars I run straight after that.

Never looked back.

ScaniaPBman.

Anyone decided what, 'safety nuts' are yet?? 🤣

My nuts are safe in a bag. 

3 minutes ago, iantt said:

My nuts are safe in a bag. 

Mine too 🤣

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I've eaten my nuts

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Well for me safety nuts are ones that have been snipped, but that would fall under a different forum topic I reckon! 

I've got some of them 😁😁

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