I've got an iPhone 6 in really good condition. It does everything I want and is the thinnest ever iPhone which I like as the latest ones are, for me, too big. Thing is that it's operating system is now, not being updated and most of the apps that I use, like banking, demand later generations of IOS. If I try to access such things with a browser such as Safari / Firefox or Edge, they don't work either so my iPhone is now more or less a basic phone. Shame as the construction quality of these items is almost military grade. Has anyone else had to say goodbye to a gadget that should still be useful?

Thats money shafting Apple for you.

5 hours ago, Oriskany said:

.. Has anyone else had to say goodbye to a gadget that should still be useful?

I always run 'tech' to the last possible moment. Even now my laptop runs Windows 7, which is the most reliable OS I've ever had and I started with Windows 3.1. I keep getting pop ups from Chrome warning me to upgrade to Windows 10,and emojis no longer work if I use WebMail, being of limited selection and only B&W, not colour.

It's easy to see my ethos as I drive an almost 20 year old car - new gadgets don't interest me in the least, and 2 weeks ago it passed it's MOT for another year. 

I detest the modern values of 'planned obsolescence', and to call the current generation, 'green' is a joke. They throw away more 'working' stuff just because they are hyponotised by 'shiny', and 'new', it's quite pathetic... Old folk like me are just inherently 'green', but we don't need to shout about it... (though yes, I realise the irony of this post LOL)

Blimey, you must be old.  The Phoebus Cartel formed 100 years ago! 😮

 

Same thing happened to me with my iphone 6

Bought a iphone 8 off ebay for £30 including new battery.

Same size as iphone 6

All the apps works fine.

iPhone 6 is 10 years old. 
 

Android still can’t touch Apple when it comes to longevity of updates. (I wish they would)

They still do the SE if you want the classic design.

Steve Jobs once said that IPhones should be replaced every two years......

What a waste of earth's limited resources....

6 hours ago, Paulkp said:

Steve Jobs once said that IPhones should be replaced every two years......

What a waste of earth's limited resources....

And yet they provide 7 years of software updates so you don’t need to…

7 hours ago, Paulkp said:

Steve Jobs once said that IPhones should be replaced every two years......

What a waste of earth's limited resources....

I'm glad Mr Hitachi never suggested their microwaves should be replaced every 2 years, at 38 years old, mine is well past that date 🤣 (Still on it's original bulb!)

8 hours ago, Paulkp said:

Steve Jobs once said that IPhones should be replaced every two years......

What a waste of earth's limited resources....

Which generation was he from again? 

7 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Which generation was he from again? 

It's the same when MicroSoft abandoned Windows 7 and introduced an OS in Windows 10 so heavy in size/processing needs, necessitating hardware upgrades, that it involved the landfill worldwide of millions of perfectly working computers. Of course, St Greta never raised a peep as she couldn't make the connection of that scale of needless waste to her planet being on fire!

Just now, StephenFord said:

It's the same when MicroSoft abandoned Windows 7 and introduced an OS in Windows 10 so heavy in size/processing needs, necessitating hardware upgrades, that it involved the landfill worldwide of millions of perfectly working computers. Of course, St Greta never raised a peep as she couldn't make the connection of that scale of needless waste to her planet being on fire!

During the 70's cars were being mass produced so poorly that they'd only do 25mpg and the chassis would rust out in 2 years.  The factories building them were powered by coal and the petrol was leaded, not to mention the amount of carbon monoxide being produced from poorly setup carbs and no cats, with the lead acid batteries being dumped into landfill and leeching heavy metals into water sources.  Air travel became so cheap that most people could afford at least one foreign holiday a year, thinking nothing of jumping on a huge plane burning tonnes of fossil fuel to get there.  And I distinctly remember the 90's as being a decade of excessive consumption, with seemingly endless amounts of plastic being bought to throw almost immediately into the dustbin, which all got landfilled at the time.  The company bosses making profits on the items during the 90's must all have been boomers.

Of course, we can cherry pick some things that were greener during previous decades.  Just as we can cherry pick some things that are greener today.  But I just don't accept that any generation can consider themselves 'green' overall since the early Victorians.  What did improve during that time is convenience.  And it would now take a complete societal change to make the country properly green again, sacrificing some of that convenience in the short term, for gains that would only become apparent in decades to come.  I can't see that happening any time soon.  In fact, I can't see it happening at all until there is a major natural disaster or another world war to remind people that the convenience we have today is only a very recent thing.  Humans managed for thousands of years without it.

(PS - This is why I keep out of the EV thread.  )

4 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

During the 70's cars were being mass produced so poorly that they'd only do 25mpg and the chassis would rust out in 2 years.

Brought up in the 60s/70s, I fully endorse the 'waste' that we lived in. I have no issue with that whatsoever. What I have a massive issue with  is the hypocritical nature of the current generation that professes to be 'green' and wanting to save the planet.

There is nothing wrong with having a 10 year old phone. But if it is not supported, it becomes useless, and hence is tossed in the bin. In the 70s, when a car rusted out, it was scrapped and you got another one, but there was no pretense in thinking that you were destroying the planet, people didn't know and/or indeed care.

Nowadays, being 'green' is thrust down our throat daily, and net zero targets will cripple all of us financially. I've no issue with someone wanting a new phone, but to pretend they are living a 'green' lifestyle is a nonsense, and I just wish they'd stop bleating on in how conscientious they are.

Get/buy what they want, but don't preach to me how 'green' they are, cos they're not!  (mmm...it's a while since I had a good rant 🤣)

 

 

3 hours ago, StephenFord said:

I'm glad Mr Hitachi never suggested their microwaves should be replaced every 2 years, at 38 years old, mine is well past that date 🤣 (Still on it's original bulb!)

And still keeping good time if I've worked it out correctly !

2 hours ago, StephenFord said:

Windows 10 so heavy in size/processing needs, necessitating hardware upgrades, that it involved the landfill worldwide of millions of perfectly working computers.

Windows 11 more so.

Windows 11 is no heavier than 10. 
 

The landfill issue is MS requiring TPM and newer CPUs leaving older hardware unsupported.