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Mot fix Mk2 Focus

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IMG_7152.thumb.jpeg.b3b4d0a8ef616c0768d9db877ae141ef.jpegNeed a bit of plane English maybe photo of item if you can help much appreciated is it going to be costly can do spring maybe do others except welding cheers 



You have a decision to make. That welding sounds about £400/£500 alone. Then you have the other suspension repairs on top of that. I note your location is Co. Antrim. No idea whereabouts, but a couple of years back, my 2005 Mk2 failed on sill rust hole, and I got it repaired in HT Motors in Doagh. At the time it was around £300  for just one side, but they are excellent. You may be able to shop around for cheaper.

The sensible thing is to cut your losses on a 2009 car, and move on. But if you're really attached to the car, that's your decision alone. Let us know how you get on...

I think it's a pair of these that you want. There are two Ball Joint sizes, 21 and 18mm, most are 21mm but you will need to check your one. FORD FOCUS MK2 FRONT LOWER SUSPENSION CONTROL ARMS WISHBONE WITH 21MM BALL JOINT | eBay

The Rear Springs are a strange shape and not easy to replace without a special Spring Compressor, most normal ones will not work, unless you want to do a lot of dismantling.

I agree with Stephen about the Welding, it will probably be expensive.

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13 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

You have a decision to make. That welding sounds about £400/£500 alone. Then you have the other suspension repairs on top of that. I note your location is Co. Antrim. No idea whereabouts, but a couple of years back, my 2005 Mk2 failed on sill rust hole, and I got it repaired in HT Motors in Doagh. At the time it was around £300  for just one side, but they are excellent. You may be able to shop around for cheaper.

The sensible thing is to cut your losses on a 2009 car, and move on. But if you're really attached to the car, that's you decision alone. Let us know how you get on...

Cheers Stephen yeah thinking time 

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2 minutes ago, Tizer said:

I think it's a pair of these that you want. There are two Ball Joint sizes, 21 and 18mm, most are 21mm but you will need to check your one. FORD FOCUS MK2 FRONT LOWER SUSPENSION CONTROL ARMS WISHBONE WITH 21MM BALL JOINT | eBay

The Rear Springs are a strange shape and not easy to replace without a special Spring Compressor, most normal ones will not work, unless you want to do a lot of dismantling.

I agree with Stephen about the Welding, it will probably be expensive.

Thanks tizer check that out

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Checking out front suspension arms easy enough to do spring looks not to bad just the welding repair is gona be challenging maybe try a few places first I think the suspension arms should cover all the suspension problems ok 

12 minutes ago, Guyzer said:

Checking out front suspension arms easy enough to do spring looks not to bad just the welding repair is gona be challenging maybe try a few places first I think the suspension arms should cover all the suspension problems ok 

In theory you can just replace the Bush and Ball joint but it is a lot more work and probably not any cheaper because you may damage other parts when dismantling. 

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3 minutes ago, Tizer said:

In theory you can just replace the Bush and Ball joint but it is a lot more work and probably not any cheaper because you may damage other parts when dismantling. 

Yes I agree 100% just knowing the size of ball joints for replacement arms  19 or 21mm probably 21  tdci model suppose if put in reg should be correct 👍🏻

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In regards seam repair at rearmost must be under plastic trim cut piece out set peice in mig weld repair hopefully do 

all three issues normal

100 quid on second-hand rear spring and two new front lower arms, (if you fit yourself) then try and go elsewhere for a retest

he was probably having a bad day and fed up with drivers that can't notice the back of the car sitting at a funny level - so once he found two real faults the rust was just so he didn't need to see it again

 

 

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On 12/13/2024 at 5:19 PM, Botus said:

all three issues normal

100 quid on second-hand rear spring and two new front lower arms, (if you fit yourself) then try and go elsewhere for a retest

he was probably having a bad day and fed up with drivers that can't notice the back of the car sitting at a funny level - so once he found two real faults the rust was just so he didn't need to see it again

 

 

Yeah I guess that but he left two holes on either side of sills with a screwdriver have to get welded cheers for your comments bud

they are NOT ALLOWED to smash holes in your car..... 

Yes they are.  There's even a special tool for that exact purpose called a corrosion hammer.

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And they are supposed to just tap it lightly with the hammer and tell from the noise whether it is corroded.

35 minutes ago, Tizer said:

And they are supposed to just tap it lightly with the hammer and tell from the noise whether it is corroded.

To be fair, when mine failed on corrosion to the sill, I was really miffed, especially when I saw the hole that I hadn't 'noticed' before. But the over riding factor was that I was happy that after repair, I had a safer car to drive....

7 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

Yes they are.  There's even a special tool for that exact purpose called a corrosion hammer.

Crikey. I almost thought you were joking there until I looked up "DVSA approved corrosion assessment hammer" and got loads of hits (no pun intended😀).

It's fortunately many years now since annual welding was part of my pre-MOT preparation, but as I recall, you never needed a hammer to find the rust - with the cars I had then, poking your finger would do the job. Perhaps modern rust is better quality!

50 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

with the cars I had then, poking your finger would do the job. Perhaps modern rust is better quality!

My usual MOT station told me they have seen a modern Jaguar with a badly rusted rear sub frame. Apparently so badly rusted you could push your finger through it.

This was in the last few years. The car was less than five years old at the time.

The hammer head is plastic, which is difficult to tell in the photo.

On 12/13/2024 at 5:19 PM, Botus said:

then try and go elsewhere for a retest

It's a different system in Northern Ireland, all vehicles are tested by their equivalent of DVSA, and it can take ages to get a test slot!

32 minutes ago, Alan G H said:

It's a different system in Northern Ireland, all vehicles are tested by their equivalent of DVSA, and it can take ages to get a test slot!

It's the DVLA, and 7 months isn't long, is it? 🤣

4 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

Crikey. I almost thought you were joking there until I looked up "DVSA approved corrosion assessment hammer"

They are also used to detect if someone has covered up a rusty part with Fibreglass and undersealed over it, that would make a different noise compared to a bit of metal.

I have seen them being used during a MOT, maybe because I was watching .

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Those Mot guys know exactly where to look on every car for corrosion and on mk2 the rear sill is a hot spot for rust the use of a plastic trim around the inner arch lip probably would have prevented this a tiny stone chip in the paint probably snowballed into this 

23 hours ago, AntonovAN12 said:

My usual MOT station told me they have seen a modern Jaguar with a badly rusted rear sub frame. Apparently so badly rusted you could push your finger through it.

This was in the last few years. The car was less than five years old at the time.

The hammer head is plastic, which is difficult to tell in the photo.

my sister's X type just failed for this - remember its a mondeo !!!!

On 12/17/2024 at 10:12 AM, TomsFocus said:

Yes they are.  There's even a special tool for that exact purpose called a corrosion hammer.

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you're allowed to tap things gently with approved tools - you are still liable for damage caused 

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