I just replaced my front two St 3mm, in the wet it was losing traction, several roundabouts the esp kicked in... All better now!

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Many other countries have a higher minimum tread depth than us...that's where all the ~3mm part worns over here get shipped from! I don't like to let mine get down to the limit either, though with my driving the edges have usually worn way before the centres anyway lol, no fun in taking corners slowly. ;)

As for the MOT, of course it's pointless...you only have to see how many people have de-cats or gutted DPFs lol...and it's still legal to tape over rust holes in bodywork as well as all the other loopholes. As above it's purely to make the gov't money, certainly not a thorough test, and if you 'know someone' can get away with all sorts!

A service is completely different, it's more like a guarantee of reliability until the next service so a lot more is tested, though that does mean you're likely to get more faults flagged up, particularly if you go to an independent. With a main dealer they're all trying to work as quickly as possible so tend to charge more for a less thorough service, having worked in both myself. If you go to a non-dealer chain such as Kwik Fit they're likely to just invent faults without even looking at the car.

Performance of tyres fall off a cliff in the wet so to speak when they get to 3 mm

The scary thing is commercials the legal limit is 1mm!!

I got Pagid Discs and Pads for the Mondeo all round from Euro Car Parts. They weren't too pricey but the pads were the wrong listing from Ford. When I realised the ECP Pads didn't sit right in the carrier, I took the carrier down to my local autoparts. I asked them for the listed pads and they gave me the same ones as ECP! Ford has the 2,5 Pads listing wrong on their computers! My car was in bits on a Saturday afternoon so I asked them to get out all the pads they had for the mondeo. I eventually found that the pads listed for a 2.3 were the ones that fitted mine. Back home and threw it all back together. Theres plenty listings for performance brake linings on eBay and the boy-racer sites.

Must admit I bought a set of all corner disk and pads off eBay, unbranded on the site and all 4 corners where 100 quid all in. Take that and a 70 quid fitting charge at a local garage it was a great result. Ford wanted 350 per axle.

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no wonder you see tyre tread all over motorway /dual carriageway if they are allowed to go down to 1mm on tyres shocking

The requirements in the UK are that the grooves of the tread pattern of every tyre fitted to a vehicle shall be of a depth of at least 1.6mm throughout a continuous band comprising the central three-quarters of the breadth of tread and round the entire outer circumference of the tyre.

no wonder you see tyre tread all over motorway /dual carriageway if they are allowed to go down to 1mm on tyres shocking

Personally I like to get as much use from a tyre as I can... SAFELY. That depends on the tyre. Some can go right to the legal limit and still feel glued to the road whilst some feel skittish with 3mm of treads left. Either way, it is never a good idea to let any tyre reach 1mm!!

Either way, it is never a good idea to let any tyre reach 1mm!!

And in the UK illegal.

It's simple really, if the tread is level with the wear indicators on the tyre get it changed and it is always prudent to do it in pairs.

I also rotate tyres rear to front as rear tyres on a front driven car always wear much slower.

I never let them get that bad either, i bought the car like that. Basically I viewed the car and noticed the tyre was quite worn, I checked the MOT certificate which was 24 hours old and saw they hadn't been mentioned as an advisory. So I thought fair enough I've got a bit of time until I need to change it.

Then 1 month later I took it for a major service as it was overdue and they told me the tyre was at 1mm. Which in my book means it should have been an advisory as a Michelin tyre wouldn't wear that quick, which brings me back to my OP. I reckon the guy I bought it from new the mechanic and asked him to leave off the advisories or he put a different wheel on for the MOT or something then changed it back after.

As advisories are usually printed on a seperate sheet to the MOT certificate it's easy for someone to 'lose' the advisories.

As advisories are usually printed on a seperate sheet to the MOT certificate it's easy for someone to 'lose' the advisories.

Actually no, the advisories are on the same sheet now. I think you are recalling the old MOT certificate which had separate sheets.

It's simple really, if the tread is level with the wear indicators on the tyre get it changed and it is always prudent to do it in pairs.

I also rotate tyres rear to front as rear tyres on a front driven car always wear much slower.

Yes that is indeed a prudent thing to do, although admittedly I've never done it - but now that I'm going to buy separate winter tyres I won't have any excuse not to swap the fronts and rears around.

Actually no, the advisories are on the same sheet now. I think you are recalling the old MOT certificate which had separate sheets.

Ah see, my last one was seperate.

Won't see one for quite a while now either.

Yes that is indeed a prudent thing to do, although admittedly I've never done it - but now that I'm going to buy separate winter tyres I won't have any excuse not to swap the fronts and rears around.

As the non-driven wheels wear slowly you may find that they may have plenty of tread left but they can form cracks due to age.

This also will result in a fail.

Rotate the tyres and at least then you will get proper use out of them before they crack.

Strangely enough, places like Kwik-Fit don't routinely rotate tyres unless you pester them to (probably because it doesn't make them any money and reduces the need to change front tyres so often).

Ah see, my last one was seperate.

Won't see one for quite a while now either.

Hey, don't rub it in!!

Hey, don't rub it in!!

;) :p

Age related cracks on a tyre not a fail unless you can see ply or cords. A lump, bulge or tear caused by separation or partial failure of its structure is fail

rotated my tyres today and clean the alloys of car plenty tread left removed all stones from tread would consider winter tyres if could get them for good price

As advisories are usually printed on a seperate sheet to the MOT certificate it's easy for someone to 'lose' the advisories.

on the same sheet and has been for quite a while now.

opps, just read someone else has said the same. oh well , lol

rotating tyres good practice as long as the tyres your putting on rear are not to different in tread to the rear.

the rear tyres are doing the steering so need good tread also(think about it before shouting me down lol)

no wonder you see tyre tread all over motorway /dual carriageway if they are allowed to go down to 1mm on tyres shocking

The tread mostly comes off the bigger lorries, they're still allowed to use remoulds which inevitably separate and fall off! Fortunately they have more than enough tyres to carry the load when one goes though.

Still quite impressive when they do go lol