Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone has one of these or has used one? Recently had the focus serviced (last week) and I'm about to blank the egr, and Lenny mentioned something about running some cheap oil through the engine with additives after blanking egr, then changing it for normal stuff, so I figured this could be an easy way to do it...

The reason for the pump rather than the traditional method of getting underneath is that I have no private space/drive etc to do anything, so I'd probably do it in a little area that comes close to blocking the neighbours parking and a pump would be a simple (and I assume quick) way of changing the oil without clogging up the area for them...

Thoughts, advice?

I guess you've got a 1.6tdci in which case absolutely do not do oil change that way. You may as well not bother doing it at all its been covered a million times on here the carbon and sludge will only drain out of the sump. If you suck the oil out then you'll leave all the crap behind and you will be paying for a new engine due to carbon blocking the oil ways

A '' proper '' oil change and flush as per Lenny's advice, or even two, is the way to go as you can't take any chances with this engine

I take it all these issues with the 1.6tdci engines are same for the mk3 focus?

The engines in question are the DV6 TED4 90 /110bhp - not sure if it's fitted to MK3's ?

Edited September 16, 201510 yr by MONDEO TXS 2.2

I guess what I was getting at is that I figured they've already done the draining from the bottom and so, a week later taking it from the top wouldn't have seemed like a bad idea, but if you reckon otherwise then I won't bother...

It's not a clever idea on any engine to do top oil changes as the sump will contaminate with sludge and you never remove it with a vacuum sucker instead you put clean oik into a filthy sludgy sump. May as well not bother at all its gonna build up and clog the oil ways. Any garage that uses these to change oil with are incompetent imho it's a quicker way of doing an easy job short term but long term damage it will cause ain't worth it

No doubt the engine has been run since the service ?

If so, the new oil has circulated & collected any residue en route - so attempting to suck the '' dirty oil '' out is pointless as the '' clean '' new oil has mixed with the ''dirtier old '' oil residue left in the oilways after the oil change

Gah, but what I was saying is that if I drain the oil last week then the sludge should have gone no? I'm not going to do it anymore, but I wasn't suggesting this become my new way of changing oil, nor a garage doing it...-_-

No doubt the engine has been run since the service ?

If so, the new oil has circulated & collected any residue en route - so attempting to suck the '' dirty oil '' out is pointless as the '' clean '' new oil has mixed with the ''dirtier old '' oil residue left in the oilways after the oil change

Ok, that's kind of the answer I was after.

No doubt the engine has been run since the service ?

If so, the new oil has circulated & collected any residue en route - so attempting to suck the '' dirty oil '' out is pointless as the '' clean '' new oil has mixed with the ''dirtier old '' oil residue left in the oilways after the oil change

Per sactly lol

If you've got an industrial estate nearby why don't you use an empty car park jack her up wip the sump plug out lower it down and leave it like that for half hour then jack up again plug in bowl out and job done

Plus the oil will be warm if you drive it there so the sludge if there is any will soften and come out easier

Remember that the root cause of turbo failure on these engines is factually acknowledged as incorrect oil levels / incorrect oil spec / incorrect oil service intervals - all causing carbonisation of the oil, which stuffs the turbo

This in addition to an arguably inherently iffy internal oil filtration system, which, when added to the above is the reason oil OCD is needed :)

Haha that's funny cos that's exactly what I call it oil ocd ☺

As with any diesel engine, but more obviously with this one, oil & filter changes in excess of the manufacturers recommended intervals are sensible

Every 6k imo & the fuel filter too for good measure, as relatively cheap preventative maintenance is always preferable to expensive fixes

Remember that the root cause of turbo failure on these engines is factually acknowledged as incorrect oil levels / incorrect oil spec / incorrect oil service intervals - all causing carbonisation of the oil, which stuffs the turbo

This in addition to an arguably inherently iffy internal oil filtration system, which, when added to the above is the reason oil OCD is needed :)

I agree there, hence why I would bother changing oil again, rather than just leaving it and blanking egr...

Like I said before, I only assumed that as it was changed last week, I might be able to get away with it....

As for using an industrial estate, it's more the case of finding the time to go out and do that. There aren't enough hours in the day for all the things I need to do, let alone the things I want to do.

Bed at 2am, up at 7am seems to be a common theme at the moment..

Assumption is guess work Ian

The point made by Lenny & others is that by changing the oil & filter twice in reasonably quick succession, is that the 1st oil change may eliminate most, if not all of the contaniments, leaving the subsequent oil & filter in a much better position to do it's job more effectively

If you're local to me I'd help you out and do it for you if times an issue mate. No cost just helping a member out

Devon & Norfolk aren't close

Maybe take it to a garage to get the oil changed ? Or a neighbour's drive ?

As for finding the time, yes it's tricky but it's essential that your car is functional I would expect ?

Ah I didn't realise he was in Devon hmm a good run to clear my dpf out though lol

Devon & Norfolk aren't close

Maybe take it to a garage to get the oil changed ? Or a neighbour's drive ?

As for finding the time, yes it's tricky but it's essential that your car is functional I would expect ?

Because I live and work at the same place and we're doing 10tons of renovation, the car regularly gets put on the back burner when I use the van. The oil is changed for now at least. When I get a bit of time, perhaps the weekend, I might be able to steal a few hours to have a good old tinker and cleanup....

....also just dawned on me, I need some oil hahahaha!!! Just typical if I drained it and realised I only have 2-3litres new!!!

Per sactly lol

If you've got an industrial estate nearby why don't you use an empty car park jack her up wip the sump plug out lower it down and leave it like that for half hour then jack up again plug in bowl out and job done

You're not suggesting Deliberately dumping oil in to the environment are you?

Big companies can get away with ti as they've no morals. Foc members on the other hand..

You're not suggesting Deliberately dumping oil in to the environment are you?

Big companies can get away with ti as they've no morals. Foc members on the other hand..

I can't see how you read my post to mean that you clearly have an industrial estate nearby you that's a dumping ground [emoji6]