AndyGil Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hi Just bought a Mk3 Titanium with the standard Sony DAB, my wife wants the Navigator fitting... My question is: Is it as simple as buying another unit from a breakers and retro fitting the Nav version of the Sony DAB? Many thanks in advance for your help. Ooh what a great Forum. Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 It is even easier. On the Focus MK3 the Sat Nav system is fully integrated into the audio display (FCDIM). If you install the 5 Inch full color Sat Nav display the Sat Nav functions of the audio unit will be unlocked. To retrofit the original Sony Sat Nav system you need the following parts: * 5 Inch full color Sat Nav display. * Dashboard panel for the 5 Inch display. * SD card with maps. * GPS antenna with Fakra connector. A cheap aftermarket GPS antenna can be used without any problem. * Fakra antenna cable between the display and the audio unit. This cable is needed for TMC reception. * Control panel for the Sony Sat Nav version. However the Sat Nav system will also work with your current control panel by selecting the Sat Nav functions from the menu. * 2 wires between the display and the audio unit. These wires are needed for SAT Nav audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGil Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Thanks Wilko, I saw this on eBay and this nearly has it all? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-SONY-SAT-NAV-HEAD-UNIT-RADIO-AHU-DAB-AM5T-18C815-XK-NCS1184600-/161884375363?hash=item25b10f8943:g:IS0AAOSwyQtV3Yp3 Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Note that there were technically 2 different audio systems used on the Focus MK3. The earlier MK3 versions did have audio systems that were based on the old Bluetooth/Voicecontrol systems. The later MK3 versions did have audio systems that were based on the newer SYNC 1.0 or SYNC 1.1 system. Audio system parts like wiring, displays and audio units of these systems are not compatible. Installing incompatible parts will result in loosing functionality. If you buy another audio system it needs to be of the same system as your current audio system. Unfortunately there is no easy way to visually determine the type of system. This can only be done by the part numbers/production date of the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Thanks Wilko, I saw this on ebay and this nearly has it all? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-SONY-SAT-NAV-HEAD-UNIT-RADIO-AHU-DAB-AM5T-18C815-XK-NCS1184600-/161884375363?hash=item25b10f8943:g:IS0AAOSwyQtV3Yp3 Andy Thats a c max audio you have linked to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 theres a few of us that have retrofitted sat nav, ive not bothered with the control panel, as wilko says it not essential. First step is identifying what bluetooth/ voice you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGil Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 OK I will pull it apart and check what version I have. Thanks Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 You can tell by looking where the audio volume control is on steering wheel, is it on the right button on wheel, or right but lower down steering wheel , hard to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGil Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Please see attached from the garage I bought it from, not sure what buttons these are? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Youve got the earlier bluetooth with voice control then. So 2011to early 2013 display is needed. Think wilco will confirm thats engineering part number starting am5t- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGil Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 So the one I found on eBay should work? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-SONY-SAT-NAV-HEAD-UNIT-RADIO-AHU-DAB-AM5T-18C815-XK-NCS1184600-/161884375363?hash=item25b10f8943:g:IS0AAOSwyQtV3Yp3&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo17 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 01/12/2015 at 5:55 PM, JW1982 said: It is even easier. On the Focus MK3 the Sat Nav system is fully integrated into the audio display (FCDIM). If you install the 5 Inch full color Sat Nav display the Sat Nav functions of the audio unit will be unlocked. To retrofit the original Sony Sat Nav system you need the following parts: * 5 Inch full color Sat Nav display. * Dashboard panel for the 5 Inch display. * SD card with maps. * GPS antenna with Fakra connector. A cheap aftermarket GPS antenna can be used without any problem. * Fakra antenna cable between the display and the audio unit. This cable is needed for TMC reception. * Control panel for the Sony Sat Nav version. However the Sat Nav system will also work with your current control panel by selecting the Sat Nav functions from the menu. * 2 wires between the display and the audio unit. These wires are needed for SAT Nav audio. Thanks for that info going to give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slabgood Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 12/1/2015 at 5:55 PM, JW1982 said: 2 wires between the display and the audio unit. These wires are needed for SAT Nav audio. Can someone explain this further, I've done the upgrade, working fine but no audio as I'm not sure what two wires need adding? Appreciate some guidance or pics from someone who has done this! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 wires from the new fcim and ACM (radio) harness. FCIM 6 to ACM 4 (data link +) FCIM 12 to ACM 5 (data link -) James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slabgood Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 20 hours ago, JPW said: 2 wires from the new fcim and ACM (radio) harness. FCIM 6 to ACM 4 (data link +) FCIM 12 to ACM 5 (data link -) James Thank you, just what I wanted, all working now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 10:21 PM, JPW said: 2 wires from the new fcim and ACM (radio) harness. FCIM 6 to ACM 4 (data link +) FCIM 12 to ACM 5 (data link -) James Not FCIM but FCDIM. FCIM and FCDIM are completely different. FCIM = radio control panel FCDIM = display Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamgriffiths39@gmail.com Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 12/1/2015 at 7:17 PM, iantt said: You can tell by looking where the audio volume control is on steering wheel, is it on the right button on wheel, or right but lower down steering wheel , hard to explain. i have the buttons on the steering wheel so would would mine be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aego Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Hi all, Just fitted the complete Sony satnav system form a 2012 Focus Titanium X (display,audio, buttons facia, satnav card) and a Fakra gps off amazon into my 2012 Focus Titanium that had the Sony system without satnav. I'm not getting any sound/verbal commands while using the nav. I've read the above replies here but I'm struggling to know exactly what else I'm missing? The two audio wires.... no idea what they look like, where they go or if I can buy them on the internet? The Fakra antenna cable between the display and the audio unit. This cable is needed for TMC reception... can someone help with a link to buy an appropriate one please? Do I need to do anything in Forscan? Thankyou all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zed_thirteen Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 On 12/1/2015 at 8:32 PM, AndyGil said: Please see attached from the garage I bought it from, not sure what buttons these are? Andy My steering wheel looks like this one with the volume controls in the gap between the spokes on the right rather than on the spoke. Does this mean my unit is bluetooth rather than SYNC 1.x? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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