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#16 InstructorPiggy

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:10 PM

its nuts what could pass an MOT...and thats with an honest garage!! :lol:

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:12 PM

its nuts what could pass an MOT...and thats with an honest garage!! :lol:


yes indeed, i have a mate who is a tester. i always think very highly of him but some of the stuff he has told me that can and does pass is absolutely stupid really.

like as long as your plates are secured to your bumper, the bumper can be hanging by a thread it will pass. just silly things like that. i really dont know who thinks up these things...

i always worry about the 'next mot' but i really shouldnt...

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:17 PM

you can have a crack in your windscreen from one side to the other...so long as it not in wiper sweep, your good!

you can have a hole in the floor...but so long as its not within 30cm of a seatbelt mounting and not part of the chasis....your good to go

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:24 PM

you can have a crack in your windscreen from one side to the other...so long as it not in wiper sweep, your good!

you can have a hole in the floor...but so long as its not within 30cm of a seatbelt mounting and not part of the chasis....your good to go


and even if the crack did fail the mot, kick the windscreen out and they cant test it, the washers or the wipers. oh dear this gets worse.

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:30 PM

would fail for no windscreen!

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:36 PM

would fail for no windscreen!


not from what ive heard? if its not there they cant test so cant fail. only an advisory :lol:

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:38 PM

not from what ive heard? if its not there they cant test so cant fail. only an advisory :lol:



certain things must be in place....

it would be a "refuse to test" or something like that, the MOT would just not be carried out.

Could go without rear window...maybe thats what you heard!?

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:41 PM

certain things must be in place....

it would be a "refuse to test" or something like that, the MOT would just not be carried out.

Could go without rear window...maybe thats what you heard!?


hmm, i will need to ask my tester friend at some point but im pretty sure it was him who told me. definetly the front windscreen though, hence why i mentioned washers and wipers as these are not testable on the rear anyway.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 10:50 AM

Talking about MOTs I need to check when my next one is. I doubt it will fail but I know my car is not in a complete healthy state.

I guess I can get some rust removal for the brake discs but I definitely need to change the pads. It feels like my braking distance has increased over the last 2 months.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 11:59 AM

i know i have knocked this about off topic but piggy, ive got the answer...straight from the testers mouth

Nope,the car doesn't need a windscreen for an MOT,and if it hasn't got a windscreen then the washers and wipers aren't testable.Some early Land Rovers had a windscreen that could be folded down,and on those you checked the wipers and washers but if they didn't work it was just a pass and advise as the windscreen could be folded out of the way.

The MOT does have a few foibles like the above,the thing is it's to cover all cars and not just modern ones.You have to test a 1910 Model T the same way as you test a 2006 Laguna,although of course there are things that are only fitted and checked after a certain build date.Some early cars only had door handles on the inside,but because they didn't have a roof or windows you could still access them from the outside.If you had a front outer door handle fail on your Focus but the inner one on the door still worked,if you presented the car for a test with that door window wound down,then the tester would have to pass and advise the car due to the fact that the handle could still be accessed from the outside of the vehicle!.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 06:04 PM

^ thats crazy facts. I guess the motoring authorities didn't feel the need to standardize a lot of things because cars are evolving quite quickly and there are so many different types of vehicles.

But back to the topic. I don't have any tools to change the brakes myself so I guess I'll have to cough up the cash for an engineer to do it.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 07:17 PM

^ thats crazy facts. I guess the motoring authorities didn't feel the need to standardize a lot of things because cars are evolving quite quickly and there are so many different types of vehicles.

But back to the topic. I don't have any tools to change the brakes myself so I guess I'll have to cough up the cash for an engineer to do it.


for a few quid you could have the tools, not much is required for the front brakes.

you will need a 7mm allen key, and a large G clamp or one of them large quick clamp things(thats what i use everytime). a small socket set, a tin of brake cleaner and possibly a small paint brush to help remove the dirt.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 09:18 PM

Yeah now thinking of the cost from the garage I might as well invest in the tools. I also need to change my air filter, oil filter and engine oil. I've checked the fordparts uk website and they have a servicing pack that's 40 something. Is that cheap?

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 09:45 PM

Yeah now thinking of the cost from the garage I might as well invest in the tools. I also need to change my air filter, oil filter and engine oil. I've checked the fordparts uk website and they have a servicing pack that's 40 something. Is that cheap?


the kit thats 47.48? thats excluding vat mind plus delivery.

i dont buy genuine service parts normally but to me the price isnt really that bad.
well if you want genuine parts, i would order them from fordparts, i wouldnt complain at saving 25%.

all the service parts are easy to do, the fuel filter though is a bit fiddly especially if your working on your back. a little patience is needed(some thing i dont always have) but i managed mine without too much bother.

im forever buying tools, cant have enough :lol:

EDIT: by the time you go to an average motor factors with exception to the plugs,
12 for spark plugs(genuine ford)
8-10 for air filter
15 for pollen filter(doesnt have seal kit like the genuine one)
10 fuel filter
6 oil filter

thats just cost you over 50 plus you still need a sump plug(old one 'can' be reused if in good nick but good practice to replace). when i bought a pollen filter for mine, it did come with the seal but i cant see it pictured, worthwhile asking first if you are gonna order. plus from fordparts, you can guarantee you will get the right bits!

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:47 PM

^ all that sounds good to me. Though I think I'll have to wait for the weather to become warmer before working on the car since I don't have a garage. Can't wait to get started so at least I know what my car is looking inside.

By the way I thought air filter and pollen filter are the same thing!? I read up on the air filter (the one ocated in front of the passenger windscreen) but where is the pollen filter?

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