Guy Heaton 240 Posted June 11 Picked her up today. 8 weeks for a factory order, not too bad I think. St-line x 182 auto. Drives really nice, although I need to get used to fwd again. I'll do a proper review after a few weeks 4 alonimous, Eric Bloodaxe, F0CUE and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1979Damian 777 Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Guy Heaton said: Picked her up today. 8 weeks for a factory order, not too bad I think. St-line x 182 auto. Drives really nice, although I need to get used to fwd again. I'll do a proper review after a few weeks Magnetic grey really suits the sportier look of the ST-Line 1 Guy Heaton reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Bloodaxe 988 Posted June 11 28 minutes ago, 1979Damian said: Magnetic grey really suits the sportier look of the ST-Line Certainly does. From ones I've seen so far, the Mk 4 does seem to be very sensitive to spec and colour to look its best. Pics I've seen of the ST in "Orange Fury" look amazing but whether I'd dare drive round in one that colour is another matter!😀 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guy Heaton 240 Posted June 11 Yes, the gray suits the st line but not titanium or vignale I think. It was an accidental choice, wouldn't have considered it but when we were first looking there was an st line in grey and it looked good. Come winter I might stick some night breakers in, the halogens are a bit yellow compared to the DRLs 1 1979Damian reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wilto 430 Posted June 12 Nice looking car pal 👍 1 1979Damian reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt92 50 Posted June 12 The more I see this new focus the more I like it. I do think I’d have to remove F O C U S from the boot though, not keen on how much of the rear end it takes up. I’ll have to get a few years out of my current one though before I go looking at one. 1 Lenny reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wilto 430 Posted June 13 As I tend to buy my cars outright when they are around 5 years old, and keep them for about 9 to 10 years, this is the car I will probably be buying in 5 years time, unless I win the lottery 🤞 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Bloodaxe 988 Posted June 13 On 6/12/2019 at 10:02 AM, Matt92 said: . I do think I’d have to remove F O C U S from the boot though, not keen on how much of the rear end it takes up. Yes, I've seen a few rear-end shots of the new ST which doesn't have this lettering - surprising what a difference it makes to the looks ( for the better, imho!😀). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomsFocus 5,511 Posted June 13 On 6/11/2019 at 5:35 PM, Guy Heaton said: Come winter I might stick some night breakers in, the halogens are a bit yellow compared to the DRLs Halogens on an X in 2019!! 😮 I've noticed the Titanium X comes with halgoens as well now. I guess the only option is those or LED lights but the LEDs don't seem to be standard on any Mk4 specs? I agree with Roger, the Halfords style lettering on the boot would have to go asap if I bought one! Looks very nice overall though!! Have you got any interior pictures? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Bloodaxe 988 Posted June 13 28 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Halogens on an X in 2019!! 😮 I've noticed the Titanium X comes with halgoens as well now. Interestingly I spotted the other day that the RAC are calling for legislation to limit the brightness of headlights after research showed that more than 90% of drivers believe they are too bright. The worsening problem of headlight glare was blamed on the use of Xenons and LEDs in place of traditional bulbs, plus the usual reasons of poor adjustment, failure to dip, and increasingly high mounted lights due to the popularity of SUV-type vehicles. 1 TomsFocus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomsFocus 5,511 Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: Interestingly I spotted the other day that the RAC are calling for legislation to limit the brightness of headlights after research showed that more than 90% of drivers believe they are too bright. The worsening problem of headlight glare was blamed on the use of Xenons and LEDs in place of traditional bulbs, plus the usual reasons of poor adjustment, failure to dip, and increasingly high mounted lights due to the popularity of SUV-type vehicles. 90% seems a lot! 😮 It's always going to be a compromise with seeing where you're going but not stopping oncoming cars from seeing where they're going. I would've thought the automatic adjustment of xenons would make them less of an issue than halogens as I doubt anyone ever really uses the manual adjuster when they've got rear passengers or a load in the boot. Maybe auto adjusters should become mandatory even for halgoens... I haven't found Ford Xenon's to be particularly bright in all honesty, they just look cool... The silver eyeball projectors were one of the things that drew me to the Mk2.5 Titanium I bought...there was no X trim on 2.5 so xenons were rare on anything other than STs and I always hated the massive reflectors on standard models. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comares2001 96 Posted June 13 54 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Halogens on an X in 2019!! 😮 I've noticed the Titanium X comes with halgoens as well now. I guess the only option is those or LED lights but the LEDs don't seem to be standard on any Mk4 specs? I agree with Roger, the Halfords style lettering on the boot would have to go asap if I bought one! Looks very nice overall though!! Have you got any interior pictures? LED headlights are standard on Vignale or new ST or you can upgrade most models to full front LED with adaptive headlights which just for the record are amazing and worth the extra cost 1 TomsFocus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guy Heaton 240 Posted June 13 Yes, I almost wish I had specced them but it would have made the cost too much for me and I really wanted the reverse camera. TBH I've used nightbreakers in my previous car and they're pretty good for halogen, they do give enough light. These days we only think they don't when we compare to LEDs. I also find SUV LEDs can be dazzling. I'd have specced LEDs really for the look. 1 TomsFocus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomsFocus 5,511 Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Comares2001 said: LED headlights are standard on Vignale or new ST or you can upgrade most models to full front LED with adaptive headlights which just for the record are amazing and worth the extra cost Ah, my bad, I'd forgotten the Vignale! Wasn't really counting the ST as it feels like a separate model, unattainable for most of us used buyers, both in terms of purchase price and running costs. The ST launch is the only MK4 I've seen with a set of LED lights in the flesh so far though. Is there still a space for the Titanium X as well as the Vignale? Can't really see the point of the TX now...I'll just hope the Vignale's depreciate quickly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guy Heaton 240 Posted June 13 To be fair I think they will and they're fully loaded with all the kit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomsFocus 5,511 Posted June 13 24 minutes ago, Guy Heaton said: To be fair I think they will and they're fully loaded with all the kit. All they have over the Titanium is a set of ugly 17s and part leathers...who's gonna spend £2k for that? For a bit extra you might as well go for the Vignale and get full leathers, 18" multispokes, LED headlights, B&O audio, park assist, reverse camera, colour changing ambient lights, heated wheel etc... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Bloodaxe 988 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, TomsFocus said: 90% seems a lot! I've always had an eye test every two years ever since I first got a bike licence at 16, and I was actually at the opticians earlier this week. Chatting while doing the tests, the optometrist mentioned he'd seen a surprising increase over the last few years, of people of all ages coming in thinking they have a problem because of dazzle when driving at night, so maybe the issue is quite widespread. 1 TomsFocus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guy Heaton 240 Posted June 13 25 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: All they have over the Titanium is a set of ugly 17s and part leathers...who's gonna spend £2k for that? For a bit extra you might as well go for the Vignale and get full leathers, 18" multispokes, LED headlights, B&O audio, park assist, reverse camera, colour changing ambient lights, heated wheel etc... Sorry yes I was talking about the vignale. 1 TomsFocus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites