Hello 🙂

I currently own a Fiesta with a 1.0 EcoBoost, but planning to upgrade in the near future to a Focus estate.

Now I've been reading around a little and got confused about the EcoBlue engines and their timing belt, and I'm hoping someone here may know the answer to my question.

Does the MK4 (2019) Focus EcoBlue use a timing , or the slightly more reliable timing chain? Someone told me that the 1.5 diesel uses a chain, but the 2.0 ecoblue since 2019 uses the 'belt in oil' system similar to my current Ecoboost engine. While elsewhere I read that the 2.0 engine with the similar timing belt system to the EcoBoost, is only used in the Transit...

 

If someone who knows more about this, or who owns the 2019 2.0 Ecoblue Focus could give me a little more info, I would highly appreciate that 🙂

I'm mainly curious since i'm planning to buy the car second hand, and once it passed 100.000km, it's getting close to a timing belt change, which I would like to avoid for the next years.

 

Thanks in advance! 

I think it’s a timing chain this engine has my Dad has the same car 8 speed auto very nice smooth drive plenty of power when needed

Thats great to hear! Also exactly what I'm looking for. Either 1.5 or 2.0 with the 8 speed automatic. Thanks for your reply

According to the service schedule I downloaded for the 2019 2ltr diesel, timing and auxilliary belts need changing every 10 years or 144,000 miles, so would indicate it is a belt not a chain.

 

On 11/10/2021 at 8:26 AM, south_bound said:

According to the service schedule I downloaded for the 2019 2ltr diesel, timing and auxilliary belts need changing every 10 years or 144,000 miles, so would indicate it is a belt not a chain.

 

Hi South-Bound - could you tell me where to download this information from please? I've "googled" (or rather Bing'd!) it without success (mines a 2020 1.5 ecoblue). This sort of detail seems even harder to find from Ford than it is from Skoda!

Thanks - Richard

The 1.5 is normal dry belt. The 2.0 ecoblue is wet belt. 

On 12/1/2021 at 6:41 PM, RMurphy195 said:

Hi South-Bound - could you tell me where to download this information from please? I've "googled" (or rather Bing'd!) it without success (mines a 2020 1.5 ecoblue). This sort of detail seems even harder to find from Ford than it is from Skoda!

Thanks - Richard

I think it was buried deep within a Ford website, but can't find my way back there just now.  I'll try a few more Google searches or maybe my computer will show in its history and add the link here if I find it.

https://www.etis.ford.com/home.do

Put your reg in then go to services, service schedules. Timing belt intervals will show there. 

1 hour ago, iantt said:

https://www.etis.ford.com/home.do

Put your reg in then go to services, service schedules. Timing belt intervals will show there. 

Thanks for that Ian - I found it under under FordService,Service Schedules.

Makes interesting reading in that under the 2 year, essential, and major services I couldn't find any mention of oil changes but there is a separate oil change entry which suggests that, like the Skoda that I oewned until recently, an extraction pump is used to get the oil out, so avoiding the need to remove all the  undertrays! I can see what looks like an oil filter casing for a replaceable element to the right of the engine, probably requiring a bit of a fiddle to remove when the time comes.

I suspect that when I book the service it might be prudent to ask whats included, given my expereince so far of my local dealership!

I'll have another look under the bonnet to see if I can locate the (hopefully external) timing belt. Sounds odd at this stage I know but I've always kept my cars for long periods (5-7 years or 120,00-odd miles) before retirement, and now the mileage is lower over those number of years I pass them on to either of my children, and I want to avoid as far as poss over the next few years dropping them in it with a stupidly pricey maintenance bill.

1.5 ecoblue has oil change only via dipstick tube at 1yr/10k , 2yr 20k oil and filter change as normal. But you may find the oil change message come up on dash earlier than 10 k depending on driving style/ dpf regen frequency. 

I have just purchased a 2.0 L Focus ecoblue(auto)2019,& part of the agreement of purchase was for them to fix an oil leak.They said that whilst they’re doing the leak, they just as well do the cambelt(as Ford have listed it as having a cambelt).Well when they came to do it,they discovered that it hasn’t got a cambelt,it has actually got a wet belt,which is in a completely different part of the engine,so didn’t end up doing it! I am trying to get a price for doing the wet belt from a different garage,but I am now confused even more because they seem to think it has 2 belts(a cam & a wet),although they need to do more research first! Anybody out there know for sure what it has actually got?!!! Thanks 

19 minutes ago, Kazsadie said:

I have just purchased a 2.0 L Focus ecoblue(auto)2019,& part of the agreement of purchase was for them to fix an oil leak.They said that whilst they’re doing the leak, they just as well do the cambelt(as Ford have listed it as having a cambelt).Well when they came to do it,they discovered that it hasn’t got a cambelt,it has actually got a wet belt,which is in a completely different part of the engine,so didn’t end up doing it! I am trying to get a price for doing the wet belt from a different garage,but I am now confused even more because they seem to think it has 2 belts(a cam & a wet),although they need to do more research first! Anybody out there know for sure what it has actually got?!!! Thanks 

The 2.0 EcoBlue has two wetbelts.  One to drive the camshafts.  The other to drive the oil pump.

It's worth noting the recommended replacement interval is 10 years or 144k miles.  So as a 2019 model, unless it's done very high mileage, there should be no need to replace the cambelt for another few years.

Thanks for info.Still confused though because the garage has now actually spoken to a Ford mechanic and he says that it hasn’t got a cambelt,just a wet belt! The car has done 77,000 miles.Apparently Ford are recalling all the vehicles with these wet belts and replacing them with an upgraded version.He reckons that mine will probably be recalled in about a years time! I have got the garage where I purchased the car from to give me a 2 year warranty(and I have it in writing that it will cover engine failure caused by wet belt failure),so I’m safe for now,& will get it sorted myself before the 2 years is up(& hopefully be recalled before then anyway!)

Hello Karen,

The engine has 100% got a cambelt, it just so happens that on this particular engine (I have the same car) that the cambelt runs in oil inside of the engine and is refereed to as a wetbelt, meaning that the cambelt is submerged in oil.

There is a second belt inside the engine which drives the oil pump. It also is submerged in oil and therefore is also a wetbelt.

6 minutes ago, Kazsadie said:

Apparently Ford are recalling all the vehicles with these wet belts and replacing them with an upgraded version.He reckons that mine will probably be recalled in about a years time!

That is news to me, but I'll check as best I can and see if that is the case. I have a 2.0 ecoblue 2019 model with just less than 19,000 miles so if there is a recall then I've got a bit of time before problems occur.

Thanks for your help.So many people saying different things! 🤪I definitely know there has been a lot of problems with these wet belts.The 1.0L eco boost has already been recalled,& the 2.0 L transit,so hopefully not long before mine will be done! I have now done SOOOO much research! At least I’ve covered myself now.Just very worrying because there’s problems coming up before I’ve even got the car!

5 hours ago, unofix said:

Hello Karen,

The engine has 100% got a cambelt, it just so happens that on this particular engine (I have the same car) that the cambelt runs in oil inside of the engine and is refereed to as a wetbelt, meaning that the cambelt is submerged in oil.

There is a second belt inside the engine which drives the oil pump. It also is submerged in oil and therefore is also a wetbelt.

That is news to me, but I'll check as best I can and see if that is the case. I have a 2.0 ecoblue 2019 model with just less than 19,000 miles so if there is a recall then I've got a bit of time before problems occur.

The transit 2.0 ecoblue which is the same as the focus has had multiple cambelt failures at low mileages.  There is a recall for that model . Not aware of any other models having the recall.