33 minutes ago, Danton said:

Most cameras are JX7B19B514BA and occasionally the JX7T19G490AB

JX7B19B514BA is the handle. The OEM camera for your car is JX7T19G490AB.  JX7T19G490BA is fake, I don't know if it also gives dynamic lines and wide view. 

2-3 years ago, there was a lot of OEM cameras, reasonable cheap (I paid for the handle and camera around  £40). Now, in my country it costs  £150 and is only one offer.

Never the less, it is really worthy to install OEM camera, it gives not only dynamic lines, but also zoom and very handy when reversing from a parking - wide view.

 

 

Hi Everybody, 
After reading all the messages here, I got a bit confused about the cables needed to install an OEM camera and would like to sum it up. 
I'm looking forward to install an OEM camera JX7T19G490AB into a JX7B19B514BA handle. Camera comes with no cables at all. 

Can someone let me know all the wiring and adaptors I need to buy in order to install this camera?
The other way around would be to install a camera from ATD that comes with all the cables attached. 

Sorry  for coming back to this topic but I'd really want to ensure I don't miss anything before starting the work. 
Thanks a lot for your cooperation!

1 hour ago, Caparica said:

Can someone let me know all the wiring and adaptors I need to buy in order to install this camera?

This connector: https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/4001198092527.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.35.67891c24sSNpkk

By 2-3 pieces, pins from this connector are good for APIM and BCM. You can by ones with "pigtalis" since clamping this small pins is really anoying.

You will need also 4 wires in shield cable, min 6 meters. Two sets of some universal connectors, one to split connection close to the tailgate (just in case in a future someone will need to unmount the tailgate) and one close to BCM.

Some cable ties, material protecting tape to wrap around all cables. Shrink tubes with glue. Maybe 2-3 IDC connectors/splitters to hook into existing cables.

22 minutes ago, piotrmod said:

This connector: https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/4001198092527.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.35.67891c24sSNpkk

Thanks @piotrmod! I'll try to catch this up and see if I can make it. 

TBH, I think it's too many cables and adapters for my limited experience in this field and I'll end up buying an ATD camera on eBay.

On 8/12/2024 at 12:03 PM, piotrmod said:

JX7B19B514BA is the handle. The OEM camera for your car is JX7T19G490AB.  JX7T19G490BA is fake, I don't know if it also gives dynamic lines and wide view. 

2-3 years ago, there was a lot of OEM cameras, reasonable cheap (I paid for the handle and camera around  £40). Now, in my country it costs  £150 and is only one offer.

Never the less, it is really worthy to install OEM camera, it gives not only dynamic lines, but also zoom and very handy when reversing from a parking - wide view.

 

 

I cannot agree with you. The basic version of the camera in Focus MK4 is a normal view camera, which only allows you to zoom in and shows active guidance lines. The 180-degree view camera was a higher option used mainly in richer equipment options, with Active Parking Assistant (six PDC sensors). Cameras with a 180-degree viewing angle are less common on the secondary market because there were fewer of them (an expensive option when buying a new one).

On 8/16/2024 at 8:25 PM, FrozenWhiteMK4 said:

The 180-degree view camera was a higher option used mainly in richer equipment options, with Active Parking Assistant (six PDC sensors).

It might be like that. What is strange, is that ford parts database (Microcat) lists only one type of camera for Focus mk4. Microcat has mistakes, or they may just do not configure car to use 180 view. There are cases, when some features are just blocked by configuration. There are no other type of cameras on junk yard market. If you know vin of a car equipped with factory camera without wide view, I can check in Microcat.

I search my AsBuilt data base. I was able to find cars, which has the reverse camera and no split view set in configuration. They also has APIM (Sync 3). It is like 5% (3 cars out of 69) of cars with the rear camera. However, Microcat database still claims is the same camera as any other Focus MK4.

WF0NXXGCHNMC75391
WF0PXXGCHPKU60669
WF0NXXGCHNMC80687

So, if anyone has such car, it might be that just needs some configuration to enable this feature! Or it is just a glitch in ford production. Anyway, I'm still at the position, that Ford manufactured only one type of camera for Forcus MK4 with the same capabilities: JX7T-19G490-AB.

 

1 hour ago, piotrmod said:

I search my AsBuilt data base. I was able to find cars, which has the reverse camera and no split view set in configuration. They also has APIM (Sync 3). It is like 5% (3 cars out of 69) of cars with the rear camera. However, Microcat database still claims is the same camera as any other Focus MK4.

WF0NXXGCHNMC75391
WF0PXXGCHPKU60669
WF0NXXGCHNMC80687

So, if anyone has such car, it might be that just needs some configuration to enable this feature! Or it is just a glitch in ford production. Anyway, I'm still at the position, that Ford manufactured only one type of camera for Forcus MK4 with the same capabilities: JX7T-19G490-AB.

 

Certainly with your mod, the rear view appears to be 180 degrees. I think if the camera wasn't 180 capable, then the view would start to look pretty weird with the split view mod enabled.

9 hours ago, belon said:

@piotrmod ... What can be the problem?

 

Normally, if you retrofit OEM camera you don't have wide view but moving guidelines and the zoom works fine. That is indication, that there is no connection for LIN signal from BdyCM to the camera. You have make sure this connection is fine.

Did you executed this procedure:

I think this should fail.

1 hour ago, belon said:

someone told me to drive the car for a few miles and should work after, is this true?

No, that refers to the front camera installed at the top of the windshield. Such drive calibrates reading road lines. Has nothing to do with the rear camera.

There are only two reasons for this not working. LIN bus connection or camera. Where did you get your camera from? it is OEM genuine? Do you have any pictures of the camera you have installed? Did you make all yourself or somebody did that for you?

hi, thanks for posting, an excellent guide.

i followed up to the point of plugging in the supplied cable. after testing the camera still did not work and neither did the volume button on the dash. after much troubleshooting and checking camera power, i decided to try the RCA lead with plugs, connected direct to the original. 

It worked. proving the dodgy cheap Chinese cable supplied with the camera was at fault.

super frustrating so be careful if using your supplied cable with this. hardest part i found was removing the shroud from the original plug.

but all worked out in the end.

33 minutes ago, nmo said:

cheap Chinese cable supplied with the camera was at fault...super frustrating

That is why I recommend adding just three pins. Same effort of getting into APIM connector.

First of all thank you all for all the great information already in this thread!

I do have one question about the wiring that I don't quite understand - Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that the factory reverse camera is powered all the time, but looking at the wiring diagrams, the factory reverse camera is powered from F33 which is "Hot in start or run" meaning it is switched off when the car is turned off. 

I see from the people who have done this mod, that they power their reverse camera off F3 which is "Hot at all times", is this not a problem? (I definitely see why people would choose to do it, as the battery junction box where F33 is located is in the engine bay, and it would be very annoying running a wire all the way out there). I am mostly worried about the camera having a constant current draw from the battery. 

I was looking around a bit in the wiring diagrams, and it really doesn't seem like there are any good options for a "Hot in start or run" connection near the BCM, so maybe that's why F3 was chosen?

I have already installed the camera and ran wires to C405, and from the APIM to the footwell, now I just need to run the last wire between and connect both ends, well and a bit of Forscan programming 😛 

I hope someone can clarify, so I can proceed with the mod in confidence

10 hours ago, TheFocussedDude said:

F3 which is "Hot at all times",

This is an "error" on the wiring diagram!

F3 in BCM is powered "in start or run". You can use it safely. I wouldn't use ambient since it is dimmed (if not tricolor).  F3 is powering PDC, which is located at the back of the car, same place where you will put cables. The best would be to "hook" to power cable going to the PDC module as it is F3 power.

See, complete mess (wire link "C"):

 

 

9 hours ago, piotrmod said:

This is an "error" on the wiring diagram!

OH! What a great catch! I completely missed that when I was looking at the diagrams, and the wrong labeling of the power distribution definitely tripped me up! You just saved me a ton of stress - I'm wiring up the last stretch of wire this weekend, and I hope everything works as it should 🙂 Thank you for the help! 

 

I have a question regarding this, if I was to buy a genuine Ford Focus mk4 rear camera with boot wiring loom and enable via forscan would you have to mess with anything in the front of the car still? 

1 hour ago, acherron said:

forscan would you have to mess with anything in the front of the car still? 

Yes.

Actually, imo, the boot wiring loom is waste of money. A camera connector from Aliexpress, "four lines with a shield" cable, a bit of soldering and much, much less work to be at the same point.

On 7/16/2023 at 4:17 PM, Rickychips said:

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Hi Guys

 

I purchased an OEM reversing camera and what I thought was a complete wiring harness from a breakers a few months ago

I have only recently gotten round to trying to fit it, the wiring harness I thought was complete

harness was only up to plug number C405

I have 5 wires coming from plug from the reversing camera C4357 but there are no wires from C405 forward

Would it be possible to add the terminals to plug C405 and run my own cable from here to the BCM and APIM

Are the cable terminals that fit into BCM and APIM both the same part number 9U5T-14474-DA

And the terminals that would fit the male side of C405 part number 9U5T-14421-BA

Would anybody know if these part number are correct?

Also just to confirm the terminal numbers are

From camera pin 2 to BCM pin 59

                             Pin 1 to Fuse 33

                             Pin 3 to APIM pin 15

                             Pin 4 to APIM pin 14

                             Pin 5 to APIM pin 33

2 minutes ago, Stevo67 said:

Would it be possible to add the terminals to plug C405 and run my own cable from here to the BCM and APIM

Yes.

3 minutes ago, Stevo67 said:

Are the cable terminals that fit into BCM and APIM both the same part number 9U5T-14474-DA

And the terminals that would fit the male side of C405 part number 9U5T-14421-BA

Don't know, but you will have to buy a bag full of each.

1 hour ago, Stevo67 said:

Are the cable terminals that fit into BCM and APIM both the same part number 9U5T-14474-DA

As far as I remember - yes.

1 hour ago, Stevo67 said:

And the terminals that would fit the male side of C405 part number 9U5T-14421-BA

I don't recall they type. I have added a side connector. But, from my experience, most of the connectors have pins which are similar to each other, e.g. pins of these guys fit to many Ford connectors:

They are cheap and easy to get.

Or just add  side connectors as I did. This is needed just in case the tailgate needs to be removed.

I have attached some Ford connector reference.

A shop to buy some stuff like that: https://www.tme.eu/gb/

 

18376-Pigtail-Book-2016-1.pdf

Hi, sorry posting in this thread but couldn't find the answer even searching it,

Would a aftermarket camera from aliexpress like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005505909613.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.1caa50beX5KrZf&algo_pvid=6ee986ba-79f7-4f1e-8c5d-a86d4ebb7ee6&algo_exp_id=6ee986ba-79f7-4f1e-8c5d-a86d4ebb7ee6-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!47.10!27.79!!!49.85!29.41!%40211b65de17293740286458786e0fca!12000033343447492!sea!BE!1666134154!X&curPageLogUid=z1zl8bPrjjML&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A&gatewayAdapt=glo2pol

would mess with the keyless opening of the trunk ?

Thanks very much for all the expertise on this thread - I managed to finalise my install of an OEM rear camera today following along with the information posted here.

I used this loom from Aliexpress. 1PC for 2015-18 Ford Focus installed rearview reversing image SYNC2 SYNC3 camera wiring harness cable Wing - AliExpress 34 If you start at the boot lid with some slack, you'll have plenty of room at the other end. I ordered an extra connector which came in useful as you will need to strip down the multipin to get it through the boot wiring gaitor. Alternatively, you could opt to remove the fuse tap and pull through from that end of the loom. The fuse tap won't fit into F3 as reccommended here as its a mini blade style, and you'll need a Micro2 style for F3.

I also had an issue with pin 59 of the BCM connector being utilised, but I spliced into the Yellow/Violet wire using this pin and so far I've had no issues, with the steering lines functioning as they should.

Disassembly of the dash was perhaps the hardest part, but for access to the BCM it was much easier with the glovebox removed too. 

It was a pretty amazing feeling writing the last change in Forscan, keying on and off, then putting the car into reverse and seeing a picture! Things like this rarely work first time for me, but the guidance and expertise here has paid off! It took a bit more fiddling to get the wide view enabled, but I have that working now too!

If anyone would like any pictures etc of my install just let me know.

Hi

So i just came across this. 

We did the exact same steps as you but we used the harness. On forscan the APIM doesn't appear and we have noticed also that the audio control unit isn't lit and buttons don't work, bluetooth does work too. 

 

Do have any idea what may have caused this? 

On 7/20/2024 at 9:59 AM, piotrmod said:

Hello!

There was one thing missing when retrofitting OEM cameras: wide view. Finally, I have nailed it down!

So, if you don't have this button:

you need to do two things:

1) In APIM, set "Rear Camera Split View (without multiple cameras)" (I'm not sure about English translation, something like this anyway), this reflects bit: 7D0-02-03  2xxx xxxx xx

2) Set LIN configuration in BdyCM for RVC (Rear View Camera). I don't know why cars with RVC has different values in it. I just found a car close to mine and copied values. In my case:  726-15-02 xx6F xxxx xx

3) Execute already known procedure "Testing Module Communication" in BdyCM.

Done!

BTW: It should be camera, which has number ending with -AB. In the Ford data base, there is only -AB camera for MK4.

 

I installed OEM camera JX7T-19G490-AB. But my Audio module does not have separate APIM so I used No APIM connection schema (square connector to audio block). 

Forscan settings:

1. BdyCM: Rear Vehicle Camera - "1 - Enabled".
2. ACM (Audio Control Module): Rear View Camera - "2 - Present non-NA layout".

 

Works:

• Dynamic lines
• + Zoom
• New "Vehicle" block added to Sync with "Camera settings" with "Rear view camera delay" option automatically

   

 

Does not work:

• No Split view. Althouth the other icon looks like "Multi camera switch" obviously does not work which is expected.
• For some reason the moving objects on the rear camera look sliced and delayed with vertical lines like on old PAL/NTSC or whatever it was VHS recorders. Is it expected to have VHS-like horizontal lines on camera display? Is it depends on wires quality?

I tried all ACM settings in that list, with runing BCM testing procedure of course. Only #2 seems to work, while others either zoom not working, or camera not switching on at all. And neither of them turns Split view on. I don't have APIM so can't do 1), while wasn't sure I should try to change 2) the BCM "726-15-02 xx6F xxxx xx" flag directly since my configuration for "726-15-02" displays last block 4 symbols length instead of two. 

Did anyone manage the Split view to work on ACM without APIM? 

List of my modules:

2 hours ago, esemlabel said:

"726-15-02" displays last block 4 symbols length instead of two. 

Don't worry about this. Last two positions is the checksum for the line. Useful data are characters before. Forscan is showing them for information purpose, and as we see, to confuse new users.  Good news, Forscan is taking care and calculate this checksum whenever we change something.

I have no experience with ACM. But, you have already changed BCM and executed procedure for testing, which is good. Imo, you need to find a setting in ACM which says something about "split view without multiple cameras" and enable it. Looking at your screenshots, it might be this option "present non-NA layout with split view option"