Good afternoon all,

This is my first post here, I am very soon about to buy a mondeo 2.0 tdci/140/hatch,

Just doing a little research has told me that there are at least 3 variants of this engine, with different levels of CO2 emissions,...159...139...and the latest being 119 which I assume has a dpf fitted.

The car I have my eye on locally is a 10 reg, which I think is co/2=159, road tax=£180.

Do they all have a dpf? or maybe just the 119/co2?

Any help or pointers would be very helpfull, Thanks.

Hello and welcome

I could be wrong about this !

I think that there was a change of engine around this time. Mine is 09 140hp =159gkm euro4 with dpf and power sapping egrs ( waiting for confirmation of remap to remove) £180 per year

Think 115 hp was the lower.

Relative has 61reg 163hp=139gkm. Hence my thoughts of engine change.

Hope this has helped and not just added to the confusion.

Hi Chris, You surprise me about your 09/159 g/km £180tax having a dpf, they must all have them then, does the dpf and egr valve give problems? Cheers.

I have not yet had any problems with them. I have read lots on the site about the egrs, hence waiting for confirmation that you can get them programed out and then blank off. I would recommend the mondeo this is my second one, lots of fun to drive and very comfortable and easy cruiser when you just want to poodle up the motorway.

Just doing a little research has told me that there are at least 3 variants of this engine, with different levels of CO2 emissions,...159...139...and the latest being 119 which I assume has a dpf fitted.

The car I have my eye on locally is a 10 reg, which I think is co/2=159, road tax=£180.

Do they all have a dpf? or maybe just the 119/co2?

Any help or pointers would be very helpfull, Thanks.

If the concern is the DPF, I think all of the 2 litre Mk IV Diesels have one. I think that early Mk IV 1.8 diesels might not have, but I am unsure about the cut-off date.

Probably an early 10 is a pre-facelift and would be the higher CO2 value, which I thought was 154. At the facelift, emissions were improved (by about 10 - 20, or so). There was also an 'eco' version with 125 BHP, but that had probably disappeared by the time frame that you are talking about (I don't really know when it disappeared, but it was pretty useless, imho, as it wasn't really much more economical than the standard 140...although, you could probably re-map to 140+ levels, if that's what floats your boat; at least smaller engined versions have a more worthwhile CO2/economy impact, even though it is a big old bus and is better with a fair amount of grunt to move it around).

The first reg date isn't an entirely reliable guide, as the car may have stood around on a dealer's lot, unregistered. Or, not. And that might make, say, six months difference.

Better would be to check from the reg on Etis, but better still would be check the vehicle documents. And if the dealer won't let you see the docs, you'd have to get rather suspicious.

1.8 MK4 Mondeos do not have DPF, the 2.0 and 2.2 do have DPF 's

Hi Chris, You surprise me about your 09/159 g/km £180tax having a dpf, they must all have them then, does the dpf and egr valve give problems? Cheers.

All EGRs and DPFs give problems, on all makes of car with them fitted

I agree with James and BOF - all mk4 2.0L TDCIs had DPFs - all the 2.0L engines are (phisically) the same, and the difference betwwen the 140PS and 163PS is the standard factory map - so the 140PS can be easily be remapped to the 163PS level or above

The EGR can have a solid blanking plate fitted and the DPF (rightly or wrongly) can be deleted,