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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

ah i see why that side hole looks better lol Im off to kms this weekend so can look into the rs/st air filter

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:44 PM

ah i see why that side hole looks better lol Im off to kms this weekend so can look into the rs/st air filter

Yes lol it even comes with a cap to plug the side induction during heavy rain conditions,
Take some pictures if possible mate,

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 06:10 PM

ok im hoping they will have an rs air filter and maybe the lid, but as it bank holiday he wont have access to parts (shop not open), yeh im takng my sony up anyway for some cheeky shots of the RS :D so ill ask



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 06:50 PM

ok im hoping they will have an rs air filter and maybe the lid, but as it bank holiday he wont have access to parts (shop not open), yeh im takng my sony up anyway for some cheeky shots of the RS :D so ill ask

It seems from reading about the fitment of the K&N57s
The airbox lid we have in the 1.6TDCi is the exact same as the RS version.
But it is the lower section and snorkle on the RS airbox that really interests me,
As you can see in the images below;
The RS airbox has a straight wide feed intake with dual channel piping for the air to circulate around the filter.
This airbox base aswell as a K&N57s lid to certaintly maximise cold induction feed with minimum heat soak.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:12 PM

if the rs filter does fit in the current airbox i don't see why cant drill/punch a hole in the side of the air filter,

 

how is the dual air feed different to your pic at the bottom of page 4?

 

edit: are you saying that the grey piping running under the black corregated pipe with jubilee clip supply air into the airbox under the filter? that would be using the short straight piece you can see in the pic above?



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

if the rs filter does fit in the current airbox i don't see why cant drill/punch a hole in the side of the air filter,
 
how is the dual air feed different to your pic at the bottom of page 4?
 
edit: are you saying that the grey piping running under the black corregated pipe with jubilee clip supply air into the airbox under the filter? that would be using the short straight piece you can see in the pic above?

The Rs induction system has a wider front facing opening.
Unlike the snorkle section running across the front of the car on bottom of page 4.

And yes the grey piping running under the black corregated pipe with jubilee clip does supply additional air into the airbox under the filter.
A retro fit may be possible but I think the RS box would have moulded male sleeves that insert to the pipe and secured with jubilee clips.

However an RS slam panel may be required to allow space for the induction inlet to fit through to the grill,
Or a cut out of the existing slam panel.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 08:29 PM

sounds good, ill see what i can find out and hopefully report back with photos aswell



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:23 PM

hi lenny

 

got some bad news and some news, the bad news is he didnt want me taking any photos due to him making developments on the intake system and didnt want any pictures leaking out,

 

however on an rs that had the airbox (he hadnt on his) i saw the second hose entering the box just below the orignal intake hole, with regards to the slam panel, it didnt have the curved section that we have in the 1.6, it had the wider opening which fitted into the plastic cover,

 

from what i gather i think the airflow comes in at the upper grille under the plastic cover and directly into either port, (it also had the hole on the side however the filter he used (i think was k&n could of been mountune) had a closed core

 

hope this is some help,



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

it was basically like this, if you remove the parts in red, then the dual airbox lid would finish at the blue line

 

 



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:36 PM

hi lenny
 
got some bad news and some news, the bad news is he didnt want me taking any photos due to him making developments on the intake system and didnt want any pictures leaking out,
 
however on an rs that had the airbox (he hadnt on his) i saw the second hose entering the box just below the orignal intake hole, with regards to the slam panel, it didnt have the curved section that we have in the 1.6, it had the wider opening which fitted into the plastic cover,
 
from what i gather i think the airflow comes in at the upper grille under the plastic cover and directly into either port, (it also had the hole on the side however the filter he used (i think was k&n could of been mountune) had a closed core
 
hope this is some help,

it was basically like this, if you remove the parts in red, then the dual airbox lid would finish at the blue line
 
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Hi Vince,
Thanks for doing the research and posting up the findings mate,
I really appreciate your input,
So it seems we would require the lower induction box section of the RS focus induction which should include the short snorkle and side pipe,(Samco manufacture a replacement hose for the side induction pipe in various colours)

We may
Also require a Slam panel from an RS focus but could try the fitment of the RS box first.

And ideally this would be paired with a K&N 57s induction box lid with XL filter allowing maximum induction while keeping it blue oval aswell as minimising heat soak from the engine,

I'm sure the results would be smoother gear change quicker turbo spool
Increased exhaust noise, louder turbo wistle,
Perhaps even lower emissions due to increased air-fuel mixture in combustion.

When I've finished the wheels and lowering; I'll go on the search for a focus RS lower section induction box,
We will then find out if an RS slam panel to fit.

I'll then try and save up to purchase a K&N57s and see how she goes!

For me it could be november before complete as I'm taking a modification holiday in june until october.
(I've spent enough on mods between January-June)

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:40 PM

hi lenny no problems m8, with regards to the slam panel i don't think there's any difference between the rs and standard 1.6,

 

i wonder if there is a cut out in the lower part of the airbox for the secondary induction hole, just like the hole on the side of the air filter cover?

 

out of interest does that k&n kit come with a filter or just the cover?

 

edit, dont know if you know this but he suggested if you remove the airbox, remove the lid and filter then pull the back up first then the front, as it fits onto rubber mounts.



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:49 PM

hi lenny no problems m8, with regards to the slam panel i don't think there's any difference between the rs and standard 1.6,
 
i wonder if there is a cut out in the lower part of the airbox for the secondary induction hole, just like the hole on the side of the air filter cover?
 
out of interest does that k&n kit come with a filter or just the cover?
 
edit, dont know if you know this but he suggested if you remove the airbox, remove the lid and filter then pull the back up first then the front, as it fits onto rubber mounts.

The K&N57s kit comes with an oversized filter to fit inside the new over sized filter housing as result of the bigger lid.
The corresponding hole on the base of the RS induction box is at the lower rear side of the box;
Blowing air in to the rear of the induction housing.
While the rest of the scoop snorkle feeds the front face of the filter,

Much like this Carbon induction.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:57 AM

ahh now that is different to the box i saw yesterday, heres a website with some more pictures of a standard system,

 

http://www.part-box....oducts_id=31593

 

this is the kit i saw yesterday fitted to an rs

 

http://www.fordxr5tu...hp?topic=9948.0



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:58 PM

guys,

 

i think its probably better just to add some extra holes for breathing and another cold air feed. if you look at cost v bhp gained its not worth it at all

 

i would also remove the pipe going across the slam panel for a more direct feed and have a feed from the main lower grill.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:32 PM

yeh that probably the best bet, i think with the a hole at the side of the box and the k&n lid and the extra pipe on the slam panel removed will be what im aiming for.



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