Turbo died

[Jlp2020]

Hello all! I have a 2006 C max 1.6 TDCi which I was driving down the m25 when I just completely lost power. No warming lights no noise nothing just went to over take and there was no power. 

I have since had a garage look at it to be told its the turbo and that its going to cost me £800-£1000 because the complications asositated with this particular engine?! Has anyone heard of this or knows anything about this?! 

 

Thank you so much in advance 

[st line x 140 driver]

Seems to be standard price for turbo and gasket change cars 14 years old so lasted long. what milage has your car done.

[Jlp2020]

 Hi thanks for the reply. The car has done 80k. I was told they cant just change the turbo alone because the design of the sump leaving a level of oil in that kills the turbo but just didn't know how accurate that was. 

[TomsFocus]

30 minutes ago, Jlp2020 said:

 Hi thanks for the reply. The car has done 80k. I was told they cant just change the turbo alone because the design of the sump leaving a level of oil in that kills the turbo but just didn't know how accurate that was. 

Kind of true...

This engine is infamous for blowing turbos ever since they first came out in 2004.  It's partly caused by the oil ways blocking up with carbon deposits.  One reason for this is poor sump design meaning some old oil is always left in there.  Another is the DPF cooking the turbo oil feed pipe as it was located too close.  And leaking injectors put excess soot into the oil which further exacerbates the issue.  

The garage are correct in that if they just change the turbo it will blow again in a matter of miles.

They need to remove and clean the sump, oil pump and turbo oil feed at the absolute minimum.

On a 2006 model I'd say it's not worth fixing personally but the £1000 quote does sound excessively high...the garage probably don't want to do it.

[Jlp2020]

Hiya Tom thanks for replying! No that's what I thought I had contacted a turbo specialist that said they could do if for £620 but all the other garages I have used in the past (or family/friends know) has been the £800+ because of them having to change other bits like you said. No it doesn't seem worth it just spent so much on it recently was hoping for a loop hole! Do you happen to know what year these dodgy enguines were fixed? Just incase I decide to throw this one away and buy another ford because I never buy anything else 😂

[TomsFocus]

14 hours ago, Jlp2020 said:

Hiya Tom thanks for replying! No that's what I thought I had contacted a turbo specialist that said they could do if for £620 but all the other garages I have used in the past (or family/friends know) has been the £800+ because of them having to change other bits like you said. No it doesn't seem worth it just spent so much on it recently was hoping for a loop hole! Do you happen to know what year these dodgy enguines were fixed? Just incase I decide to throw this one away and buy another ford because I never buy anything else 😂

These particular engines never were fixed.  They made a few minor tweaks around 2008/9 but ultimately the fundamental issues remained so it was dropped around 2011 and replaced with an 8 valve version (115bhp) with a totally different head, turbo, injectors and EGR.   The 8v doesn't have the carbon issues and the turbos rarely break on them, but they do have issues with the injectors instead.  Some early ones are also mapped really poorly, making them jumpy and jerky around town.

If you want to stick with a diesel Ford, you're probably best to go for the 2.0 TDCi and pay a bit more in fuel and tax for a better engine all round.  If you're not bothered about staying with diesel, there are plenty of petrol options but they also come with their own common issues.

[Eric Bloodaxe]

Pretty sure this will be the sort of issue described by Tom, unfortunately.

However, always worth taking a thorough look round yourself for signs of something silly, if you haven't done so already. As an example, years back I had a Rover diesel (I said it was years back!😃) that displayed exactly the symptoms you describe - sudden loss of power, no noises, though it still ran (slowly). Turbo failure was diagnosed but I did a visual check under the bonnet which revealed a small sensor pipe had blown off. Pushed it back on - sorted!

 

 

[Jlp2020]

Thank you Tom for your help and knowledge I am not really fussed about staying with diesel but it's always handy to be aware incase I do. 

Eric thanks for you reply. I'm not really very aware on the mechanics all I know is where I took the car they plugged it in and there was no faults. He then took off the thick air pipe I believe he said put his fingers in the turbo and moved it around and said can you hear that your turbo has gone. 

Everyday is a school day after all thanks for the advice and I will try and get someone to have a look just incase what I was told was wrong.