Hi all, hope you're well.

Before I start, please note that I am not the best with cars so if any replies could be kept at an easy to understand level please lol.

I have recently inherited a car from a family member after their passing. The car has been idle for a few months and no longer runs. Our mechanic could not get it to start and has indicated the engine will need to be replaced, this seems to be a common problem for Ecoboost 1.0 engines. Due to the price being offered locally, I'm likely going to have to purchase the engine myself and pay someone to fit it.

It is a 2015 Ford Fiesta Titanium X Ecoboost 1.0, with what I believe has an 'M1JH' engine? I can see the variant listed in the logbook is for an 'M1JH1D' and after some googling, I assume this means it has an 'M1JH' engine. I also noticed though that there are a few different variants: SFJA, SFJB, SFJC, SFJD, M1JE, M1JH, YYJA, YYJB.

Am I able to purchase any of these engine variants to use, so long as they are an Ecoboost 1.0? Or do I need to buy the exact variant that my car already has?

Here is a picture of the engine if that helps at all: https://imgur.com/GVtPQAp

If you require any further details, please let me know and I appreciate anyone that could help as I'm a bit stuck.

 

7 minutes ago, RossKC said:

this seems to be a common problem for Ecoboost 1.0 engines

It's not common at all for these engines to just not turn over one day. They usually fail because of a snapped cam belt (poor servicing), low oil pressure (due to the cambelt degrading and clogging the oil pickup line) or the coolant suddenly deciding it wants to be on the floor whilst you're driving along.

16 minutes ago, Luke4efc said:

It's not common at all for these engines to just not turn over one day. They usually fail because of a snapped cam belt (poor servicing), low oil pressure (due to the cambelt degrading and clogging the oil pickup line) or the coolant suddenly deciding it wants to be on the floor whilst you're driving along.

One of the garages we enquired with said they already had 3 of the same car with similar engine issues.

From the bit of research we had done on it, it seemed like quite a few people had been reporting similar problems.

If it's not a common issue, then disregard my comment but I could still use help with the engine variants if anyone knows.

As @Luke4efc says its not common for these engines to just not work simply because of standing for a good few months. Yes there are a lot of problems with the wet timing belt failing and turning the engine in to scrap.

In terms of what engine can you use you really need advice from @MasterTechTip or similar. You will need one of the same power output otherwise it means changing the details on the V5c, which of course you will have to do anyhow for the engine number.

You should be able to find a replacment engine at a vehicle recycle centre (scrap yard) for about £1500 - £2000. A small local garage should be able to do the engine swap for about £1000.

This company maybe able to advise on engine versions:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202901444994?campid=5338627314&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=10050&customid=Cj0KCQjw7MGJBhD-ARIsAMZ0eesiuIcfoQz_2mW5ZcqXkzpAptx_nmvRedfLcCcZLs04DLSGZarUP3QaAjkuEALw_wcB&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&customid=Cj0KCQjw7MGJBhD-ARIsAMZ0eesiuIcfoQz_2mW5ZcqXkzpAptx_nmvRedfLcCcZLs04DLSGZarUP3QaAjkuEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7MGJBhD-ARIsAMZ0eesiuIcfoQz_2mW5ZcqXkzpAptx_nmvRedfLcCcZLs04DLSGZarUP3QaAjkuEALw_wcB

If you're after a 1 litre Ecoboost I'd recommend just getting a new one from Ford.

1. They'll get the exact engine you need so no research required.

2. Dependant on dealer they're all around £1100-£1300 for a reconditioned (like new) engine anyways which is really cheap (believe it or not 😂)

3 hours ago, MasterTechTip said:

Dependant on dealer they're all around £1100-£1300 for a reconditioned (like new) engine anyways which is really cheap

That seems a very good price. So how come scrap yards are selling them for £1500 - £2000 ?

As you say you may as well get a unit from Ford and I expect it comes with some sort of waranty.

6 hours ago, unofix said:

So how come scrap yards are selling them for £1500 - £2000 ?

I could only imagine that that £1100-1300 is if you return your old engine. Usually there's some sort of surcharge if you don't return it in a serviceable condition.

Yeah I believe you return the old one so they can recondition it and start the cycle again, they've been that cheap for a while as they're all getting replaced under warranty so Ford are making them cheap for themselves

21 hours ago, MasterTechTip said:

2. Dependant on dealer they're all around £1100-£1300 for a reconditioned (like new) engine anyways which is really cheap (believe it or not 😂)

Presumably that's not including labour? If it was you'd be better off having a recon engine at cambelt replacement time.

Haha nooooo just the engine, whack on about 10-14 hours labour and you're looking more around £2500

On 9/2/2021 at 8:46 PM, MasterTechTip said:

If you're after a 1 litre Ecoboost I'd recommend just getting a new one from Ford.

1. They'll get the exact engine you need so no research required.

2. Dependant on dealer they're all around £1100-£1300 for a reconditioned (like new) engine anyways which is really cheap (believe it or not 😂)

Thanks for your reply.

What would be the best contact number for this? I've tried calling their main customer service line but there is no options for what I need.

Cheers.

Best off ringing your closest Ford main dealer and order it through their parts, Ford themselves don't sell to customers only dealerships

Could someone please tell me just how ‘common’ the problem is and if /how it can be avoided?

On 9/2/2021 at 5:06 PM, RossKC said:

One of the garages we enquired with said they already had 3 of the same car with similar engine issues.

From the bit of research we had done on it, it seemed like quite a few people had been reporting similar problems.

If it's not a common issue, then disregard my comment but I could still use help with the engine variants if anyone knows.

 

3 hours ago, TSid said:

Could someone please tell me just how ‘common’ the problem is and if /how it can be avoided?

I'm still not clear what the issue with the OP's car actually was, unless I've missed something?

As mentioned by @Luke4efc and @unofix, the issue which has often been reported on here is loss of oil pressure leading to engine failure due to particles of belt blocking the oil pump/strainer. This is usually attributed to degradation of the timing belt (which runs in the oil on these engines, hence "wet" belt). Neglect of oil changes, using the wrong grade of oil, or using an engine flush can all contribute to this, hence a full service record is important.

To put it in context, Ford have sold well over 1.6 million of these engines.

 

 

3 hours ago, TSid said:

how it can be avoided?

There is an easy answer to that. Don't buy a car with a 1.0 ecoboost engine and you won't have a problem.

If you already have one then getting it fully serviced by a Ford main dealer at every service interval will help reduce such potential failures as: the wet timing belt snapping, the oil pump failing, head gasket failure, and over heating issues. If in the event that your engine then does have a problem you then have a small chance that Ford might help with the cost of repairs.

3 hours ago, unofix said:

There is an easy answer to that. Don't buy a car with a 1.0 ecoboost engine and you won't have a problem.

Lol. To be fair, most makes/models have something lurking in the background and the majority of owners will never know. If you Google virtually anything and put "problems" you come up with lots of hits.

For instance, I had a 2.0TDI PD Audi from new for 5 years or so and i found it one of the best cars I ever had. Yet (unknown to me when I bought it) that engine has acquired notoriety for failure of the oil pump drive. In contrast, I once had a new Honda Civic which, like most Hondas, had an excellent reputation, plus I had been impressed with my Honda bikes. The clutch failed shortly after purchase!😀 

As has often been said, very few people come on here in the first instance to tell us all how wonderful their cars have been - the majority of us start off with a problem or query.

8 hours ago, unofix said:

getting it fully serviced by a Ford main dealer at every service interval will help reduce such potential failures

Absolutely spot on, 90% of the failed 1.0 ecoboosts we get in at my place are funnily enough not serviced at our dealer... The ones that do have full service history are "usually" fine. Unfortunately snapped degas hoses can happen to anyone