Looking for some advice, hopefully get some from here.

I have my car on PCP and am just pst the 2 year point.  Car has 31500 on the clock.

I had an oil light show on the dash, followed by engine warning light.  Car has been in the garage for 2 weeks, originally diagnosed as an oil switch issue which has been repaired but garage now telling me the problem is more severe and talking about full engine strip and rebuild (estimated up to £3000).

Is this a known fault that I should contact Ford about?  Has anyone had similar issue and can give any advice?

I don’t know what engine you have.  I know the 1 litre eco boost has problem with oil strainer in sump gets blocked by rubber granules coming from a decaying rubber timing belt which runs in oil.  Every second the engine is run with oil pressure light on is causing irreparable damage to the engine. Loads of people on this forum have had this problem although the percentage of failures is probably very low. 

    Go to 9 minutes in to see where it gets blocked. Apologies if you don’t have that engine.   I don’t know much about different specs of focus

I'm guessing you have a 1.0L ecoboost. If so then your only economical choice is a new engine. There's dozens of posts about this issue on the forum.

Was it serviced on time every year? Was the correct oil grade used? Had it ever had an engine flush carried out?

By the way it does not mean you should have done an engine flush. Engine flush can be the cause of the damage by starting the rubber belt decay. 

March 2019 Focus ST line

Has failed at 4000 miles

Currently in negotiations with Ford on a complete fit of new engine.

I don't have an ecoboost engine just a good old fashioned Mk 2.5 1.6 petrol.

If i found myself in the position of running one of these vehicles which have a high possibility of failure due to low oil pressure the first thing on my mods list would be to fit a conventional oil pressure gauge to give advanced warning of catastrophe.

No one has suggested this as I remember. Why?

Is there no place to tap into the oil pressure?

Just a thought.

ScaniaPBman.

45 minutes ago, John umpleby said:

March 2019 Focus ST line

Has failed at 4000 miles

Currently in negotiations with Ford on a complete fit of new engine.

4000 miles in nearly 5 years is extremely low mileage which puts a lot of strain on the oil. 

If you have full Ford history with services at least every 2 years then Ford may offer a goodwill gesture. 

I would be very surprised if they paid for the whole lot though.

10 minutes ago, ScaniaPBman said:

fit a conventional oil pressure gauge to give advanced warning of catastrophe.

My FORScan Phone App in conjunction with a Wireless Adaptor can monitor the Oil Pressure when the car is running and it only takes a short time to connect it up, I've even connected up when the traffic lights were on red when monitoring other things. Some of the other Phone Apps will do the same.

It may well be that someone has made a gauge that can be wired into the Electronics to save plumbing one in, I don't know.

It is a bit more complicated with modern cars that have Variable Oli Pressure control. The one on my car works on a Duty Cycle and the Duty Cycle and Pressure are up and down depending on what the PCM tells the Control to do.

If I thought it was going to be a problem with my car I would start keeping records of expected pressure under different Engine and ambient temperatures as well as loads and check my pressures regularly via FORScan.

 

1 hour ago, John umpleby said:

Currently in negotiations with Ford on a complete fit of new engine.

I hope you are extremely good at negotiations otherwise Ford will kindly offer you a full 50% off a new engine and you will still end up with an invoice of over £8000 to pay.

I wish you well, and please come back to the forum and let us all know what the final bill was 👍

For the last year or so I have been trying to find a way of displaying oil pressure in the digital dash as the STs have (performance gauges) but have not found how to do it with Forscan. Should be possible.

Sorry, I meant 40,000 miles, still not excessive  

37 minutes ago, John umpleby said:

Sorry, I meant 40,000 miles, still not excessive  

Ah, tbh that's about the perfect mileage for age. 

Has it been serviced by a non Ford garage?  Has engine flush ever been used?

Also, is it a Mk4 Focus or very late reg Mk3?  Is it automatic?

Has the wetbelt been confirmed as the reason for failure?

Hi, yes it has full service history with a main ford dealer.

Not ever had an engine flush .

Don't know what you mean re Mk4 etc.

Nobody at the dealer has mentioned wetbelt, although I have read about that this might be a problem.

And no its not an automatic.

3 minutes ago, John umpleby said:

Don't know what you mean re Mk4 etc.

Is it a late Mk3.5 Focus or an early Mk4 Focus they have two different engines.

If you don't understand what model you have then look on Auto trader at the 2018 models (Mk3.5) and the 2020 models (Mk4) and see which matches what you have.

4 minutes ago, John umpleby said:

Hi, yes it has full service history with a main ford dealer.

Not ever had an engine flush .

Don't know what you mean re Mk4 etc.

Nobody at the dealer has mentioned wetbelt, although I have read about that this might be a problem.

One other point, the car was purchased from an online discount dealer but the dealer who has serviced the car from new has indicated that the low 28% offer from Ford is because it wasn't bought fro a Ford dealer.

3 minutes ago, unofix said:

Is it a late Mk3.5 Focus or an early Mk4 Focus they have two different engines.

If you don't understand what model you have then look on Auto trader at the 2018 models (Mk3.5) and the 2020 models (Mk4) and see which matches what you have.

On the reg document it says;

Type DEH

Variant B7DA1NX

Version 5APBZ6AB7AK

It won't be a 2020 model surly since reg is march 2019

2019 is a model cross over year. Yes your car is a 2019, but does it look like the same model as a 2018, or does it look like the same model as a 2020?

I'll have to have a look tomorrow 

11 hours ago, John umpleby said:

Hi, yes it has full service history with a main ford dealer.

Not ever had an engine flush .

Don't know what you mean re Mk4 etc.

Nobody at the dealer has mentioned wetbelt, although I have read about that this might be a problem.

 

11 hours ago, John umpleby said:

One other point, the car was purchased from an online discount dealer but the dealer who has serviced the car from new has indicated that the low 28% offer from Ford is because it wasn't bought fro a Ford dealer.

Ok, there's been a bit of confusion on our side as you posted in an older thread about wetbelt failure on a different engine when that may not be the issue with yours.

Your car is a Mk4, so it uses the later engine with a chain instead of a wetbelt for the camshafts.  It does still use a belt for the oil pump, but so far these have rarely failed on the chain engine, especially at just 40k miles.

It sounds like there may be a totally different issue with your engine, we would need to see Ford's diagnosis to understand what has happened to it and what the cause may have been.

Just one final note, if the car was bought from Cazoo, they do an oil change on every car (regardless of service history) so it is possible that the wrong oil has been used.  I don't know whether other car supermarkets do the same thing.  I only realised after getting a car from them and finding they'd ruined the full dealer service history on it.  

19 hours ago, John umpleby said:

March 2019 Focus ST line

Has failed at 4000 miles

Currently in negotiations with Ford on a complete fit of new engine.

What's actually failed? 

Hi again,

Firstly you now say my car is mk4, well I said I would look on auto trader to decide. Well I have looked but cannot find the answer as no means of searching for make.

Second, no say I posted that it had a wetbelt. No, I said I had heard about that . In fact the dealer hasn't provided an explanation for the failure.

When the problem first arose ( oil warning light etc) they found that almost all the oil has gone. So they filled it up with 3lt and asked us to drive for 600mls and then return so they would check the level.  It only went 300 before the lights came on again. As far as I'm aware they have not done any checks,  merely saying the engine is a write-off

5 minutes ago, iantt said:

What's actually failed? 

Don't have the answer, read my recent reply to tomsfocus