I personally like the fact it doesn’t cancel when changing gear. I found it really annoying on last cars, change down for a hill and have to resume it again, then change up when back on a flat and have to resume it again.  (Although that’s less of an issue with the engine in my current car 😁)
 

It does seem like something they should give you the option for, if people don’t like it  

If I’m coming up to a junction though, I’ve cancelled cruise way before I need to change gear. So I’d be manually cancelling on either system. 

46 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

I don't have ACC - mine is standard cruise, so it's not reading other cars or road conditions at all, which makes it incredibly unsafe to re-engage cruise in this way IMO.  Alex does have ACC so his will be different.

As for the junction scenario - I drive mainly light traffic on 30mph suburban roads.  There is rarely a need to stop for a T junction, perfectly acceptable to just slow down for visibility, then round the corner in 3rd.  I find it smoother to drop a gear and gently engine brake than to keep hitting the brake pedal.  I do not want cruise to operate as if I was driving an auto and force me to keep hitting the brake pedal.  I would have bought an auto if I wanted that.

thanks for the new info... I note the thread is titled about Active cruise control and some have brought a different issue and on a different spec / toy count vehicle - so not much surprise we are starting from different places

the situation you have just clarified sounds like a fault on your car (maybe its now on all of them) - I entirely agree, resuming a set speed after you cancelled it on a non ACC equipped car is not best practice - particularly so when we have 60 years of car history and many other vehicles you may drive that operate in a distinctly different manner.

so either Ford have gone silly, or the car is a muddle up in software of two systems and it ought to be flashed to safe.  (I guess it will never be as this way can help push up car sales), and I see alexp999 says he likes it.  And I can see why he says that - but its only really safe to re-engage a set speed on cars with ACC, as it can then override any potential forgetfulness as it will know if the conditions in front means re-enabling is not the right choice

Tom you won't like the solution but you'd be more used to it if you had ACC, and its the approved way to drive these days - we shouldn't do engine braking.  It puts a lot of wear on the engine, engine and trans mounts, gearbox, driveshafts and clutch.  Brake pads are 40 quid vs 10k of mechanically worn kit...

We only have engine braking as an idea, because once upon a time when we still had cavemen, a wooden block pressing against a wheel with the pressure of a feather tickling you belly button didn't provide much in the way of stopping.  Today's cars don't have that issue, and the training to pass your driving test hasn't had engine braking for 45 years.

Engine braking is fine in terms of lifting off and letting the engine slow the car down in the gear you’re already in but you shouldn’t change down gear to increase engine braking as a way of slowing down. Only time I change down to increase engine braking is to help you going down a very steep hill. But that’s about trying to not increase speed, rather than slowing the car. 

11 minutes ago, Botus said:

Tom you won't like the solution but you'd be more used to it if you had ACC, and its the approved way to drive these days - we shouldn't do engine braking.  It puts a lot of wear on the engine, engine and trans mounts, gearbox, driveshafts and clutch.  Brake pads are 40 quid vs 10k of mechanically worn kit...

We only have engine braking as an idea, because once upon a time when we still had cavemen, a wooden block pressing against a wheel with the pressure of a feather tickling you belly button didn't provide much in the way of stopping.  Today's cars don't have that issue, and the training to pass your driving test hasn't had engine braking for 45 years.

While I agree that's how it looks on paper, I haven't broken a clutch, gearbox, driveshaft or anything else in over a decade of driving like this, using manual cruise with clutch cancel several times on literally every drive.  (MK2 Focus, Mk3 Focus, Vectra C, Mk4 Golf, Mk6 Golf, A3 8P, etc).  I don't have particularly good 'fine' movement in my right foot, so it is personal preference.

My next car will have the VAG ACC, but I don't see that working any better for me unfortunately.  I didn't get on with DSG, having to hit the brakes for every junction.

ACC it doing what it's supposed to do,  maintain the set speed UNLESS there is an obstruction, if you come up to a junction and there is no cars  in front of you it will try to maintain your set speed no mater what, that's if function.

15 minutes ago, Mark-UK said:

ACC it doing what it's supposed to do,  maintain the set speed UNLESS there is an obstruction, if you come up to a junction and there is no cars  in front of you it will try to maintain your set speed no mater what, that's if function.

Not sure my complaints about this are being fully understood.  Doesn't actually matter whether it's ACC or manual cruise.  I simply want a clutch-press to cancel the cruise speed until I decide to resume it again by pressing the wheel button.

This is the way it had been on every car I've had for the last decade.  (Including Mk2 & 3 Focus, and Mk4 & 6 Golf).  It's only recently that it's been changed with Mk7 Golf and Mk4 Focus.  Partly because of ACC I accept (although ACC is a rare option on the Mk4 Focus, it's standard on the Mk7 Golf), but I really think we should be given the option for clutch cancel or not after having had this system for so long.

On 3/23/2023 at 8:23 AM, DaveT70 said:

If your car is manual, don't bother.

ACC is only really effective on autos, it'll work but you'll still have to mess about changing gears when it slows you and you need to speed back up again.

Hi I have the automatic vignale 2019, still I dont have the acc, Do I need to add that extra

3 hours ago, Anoop George said:

Do I need to add that extra

No you don't need to add it, you can live without it as most of us do.

On 3/27/2023 at 10:43 AM, TomsFocus said:

(although ACC is a rare option on the Mk4 Focus, it's standard on the Mk7 Golf),

 

On 3/27/2023 at 10:43 AM, TomsFocus said:

Not sure my complaints about this are being fully understood.  Doesn't actually matter whether it's ACC or manual cruise.  I simply want a clutch-press to cancel the cruise speed until I decide to resume it again by pressing the wheel button.

I had a Citroen Berlingo and that too disconnected the system when either the brake or clutch pedal was depressed. You press the wheel mounted 'resume' button or the + or - button to reset a different speed.

 

Very safe and no need to fumble for a switch to turn the system off.

Absolutely love ACC on my mk4 manual. Way better than VW ACC IMHO. Sure it doesn’t work for slow moving traffic but fantastic for A roads and motorways. If you do a lot of miles massively reduces fatigue. Can confirm clutch does not cancel and it does not high rev while you change up or down. Works seamlessly through gear changes on a manual and is very intuitive. Came as a pack on my 69 plate with HUD and other tech if I remember correctly.

On 8/8/2022 at 7:14 PM, piotrmod said:

What is year of the car you are going to buy? Can you provide VIN? Cars from the first year of production in my country were very well furnished, even without ACC all they had CCM module (radar) installed for the pre-colision assistant. In my car, I just had changed buttons and after 20min of programming I enabled ACC! Every thing depends on what is in the car, CCM, IPMA and ABS must be ready for that. It is not always the case.

Hello. Maybe you can help me with something. I have a 2019 Focus mk4 1.5 diesel manual that doesn't have Cruise control. Only the LIM button. I have the cameras for pre collision and keeping the lane. What I need to do so that I can have a normal Cruise control?