1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

Not 10 years time, it'll need another damn belt by then!!  

Is the wet belt got a different service interval to the original fitted one then which is every 10 years? (Or 100,000 miles or whatever)

28 minutes ago, mburdett555 said:

Is the wet belt got a different service interval to the original fitted one then which is every 10 years? (Or 100,000 miles or whatever)

The wet belt requires change at a maximum of 10 years but I would seriously recommend changing it once it gets past 8 years.

44 minutes ago, mburdett555 said:

Is the wet belt got a different service interval to the original fitted one then which is every 10 years? (Or 100,000 miles or whatever)

It's recommended every 10 years.  So in 10 years from now it'll need another belt.  I'm not sure what's confusing about that?  

yeah I understood it to be 10 years or 100k miles. My car done just under 56k miles but is currently 9 years old. It has full service history, but not record of belt change, so thought it best to be safe and get it done. Always nervous of belt snapping ever since a belt went on my XR2. 

I have been issued the following costs from a ford dealer near me.

To replace cambelt, aux drive belt and required parts following ford procedure £1560.55inc

To replace cambelt, water pump, aux drive belt and required parts following ford procedure £1692.11inc

Is the aux drive belt the smaller oil belt or something different ? He hasn't clarified whether the cambelt includes both belts. I assume it does.

7 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

It's recommended every 10 years.  So in 10 years from now it'll need another belt.  I'm not sure what's confusing about that?  

Friday night, busy week, read the post differently lol 

You guys are seriously ripped off in the UK & Europe! To do the cam belt change here in Australia it is around $1,500.(£900 odd).Mine is a 2015 model, with 92,000 kms on the clock, I won’t be changing it any time soon.

13 hours ago, mburdett555 said:

I have been issued the following costs from a ford dealer near me.

To replace cambelt, aux drive belt and required parts following ford procedure £1560.55inc

To replace cambelt, water pump, aux drive belt and required parts following ford procedure £1692.11inc

Is the aux drive belt the smaller oil belt or something different ? He hasn't clarified whether the cambelt includes both belts. I assume it does.

The aux belt is the one you can see, driving the alternator, AC pump and in this case, waterpump as well.

I doubt that price includes the oil pump belt, so well worth double checking! 

On 9/17/2022 at 9:33 AM, TomsFocus said:

The aux belt is the one you can see, driving the alternator, AC pump and in this case, waterpump as well.

I doubt that price includes the oil pump belt, so well worth double checking! 

The bloke claims the Cambelt is the wet belt and this also drives the oil pump. 

Bit of an ambiguous answer there. Maybe my car does only have one belt but maybe someone can confirm before I reply looking like a know it all saying there actually are two belts. 

So just to confirm the 1.0 ecoboost engine used in 2013 ford focus cars does have 2 separate wet welts ? I've seen kits online that when bought, do actually have both the belts included so could be a oversight by him.

There are 100% definitely two separate wet belts inside the engine. One large wet belt which is the timing belt which connects the crankshaft to the camshaft. There is a second much smaller wet belt which connects the crankshaft to the oil pump.

48 minutes ago, mburdett555 said:

The bloke claims the Cambelt is the wet belt and this also drives the oil pump. 

This is quite worrying and to be honest I'd now run away from this guy. If he doesn't know that there are two internal wet belts on the Ecoboost engine then I doubt he is the right man for the job.

Changing the external auxiliary belt (dry) and the water pump is unnecessary (there is no harm in doing it) on your engine as they are not related to replacing the wet timing belt.

The prices you have been quoted are not cheap (just a little more than average)

On 9/16/2022 at 8:02 PM, mburdett555 said:

I have been issued the following costs from a ford dealer near me.

To replace cambelt, aux drive belt and required parts following ford procedure £1560.55inc

To replace cambelt, water pump, aux drive belt and required parts following ford procedure £1692.11inc

and therefore I would strongly suggest that you find a different Main Ford Dealership and get them to do the work.

19 minutes ago, unofix said:

 

Changing the external auxiliary belt (dry) and the water pump is unnecessary (there is no harm in doing it) on your engine as they are not related to replacing the wet timing belt.

The prices you have been quoted are not cheap (just a little more than average)

and therefore I would strongly suggest that you find a different Main Ford Dealership and get them to do the work.

Thanks for the feedback, I'll probably get the aux belt done as well as I can't see it been changed since new so do both same time I guess.

Will look at other dealers, this wasn't the closest near me, 

2 hours ago, mburdett555 said:

The bloke claims the Cambelt is the wet belt and this also drives the oil pump. 

Bit of an ambiguous answer there. Maybe my car does only have one belt but maybe someone can confirm before I reply looking like a know it all saying there actually are two belts. 

So just to confirm the 1.0 ecoboost engine used in 2013 ford focus cars does have 2 separate wet welts ? I've seen kits online that when bought, do actually have both the belts included so could be a oversight by him.

You're just talking to some fool on the service desk, he won't know what's fitted to the car.

Your engine does have 2 separate wet belts, one to drive the cams, and one to drive the oil pump.  

 

1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

You're just talking to some fool on the service desk, he won't know what's fitted to the car.

It's quite worrying really given that a lot of customers won't even be aware of what belt is which and what they do, let alone now many there are and whether they're wet or dry, etc.

Makes one wonder how many of the "issues" we see are in some way linked to incorrect or non-existent advice from service departments.

40 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

It's quite worrying really given that a lot of customers won't even be aware of what belt is which and what they do, let alone now many there are and whether they're wet or dry, etc.

Makes one wonder how many of the "issues" we see are in some way linked to incorrect or non-existent advice from service departments.

I rarely seem to be given correct advice anywhere nowadays. 

Not just cars or goods either. In my 'other' life I see incorrect advice causing people months/years of unnecessary stress, thousands of pounds lost and health issues escalating way beyond the point they could have been sorted. 

Not to be over dramatic but I don't know how to these 'advisers' can have such a laissez-faire attitude to the impact they have on people's lives!

I've come to the conclusion that if I can't find the information I'm looking for online, chances are I'm not going to get it by asking either.