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Can't Start The Engine,urgent Heeeelp,please

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Heeeeelp i have a Ford Focus 2.0 TDCi,im getting mad,i was just making a short tour in my town with my family,when we were turning home just 500m from my house everything went on,on my dashboard and a message saying:engine system failure or something like that,than the message acceleration decreased,i guess this i the limp mode :( but what happened is that i turned of my car and than i tryed 5 times to turn it on but no,i cant..please help what can i do,what may it be,is urgent :(



is engine turning over

if it is, so many possibles, you really need codes read to point you in right direction

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if it is, so many possibles, you really need codes read to point you in right direction

but i cant even start it up to take it to any garage to read the codes :( any posible way to make it start up?thanks

without knowing whats wrong, not really

think your only option is to call someone out

could try bleeding the fuel..might be enough to get it running

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hmmmm i thought maby if i unplug the battery for some minutes maby it resets the error codes for some minutes?

you can try, but codes will stay till cleared

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Hel

you can try, but codes will stay till cleared

i just did the dashboard trick and i got this DTC codes

D147

D900

E197

E200

A103

Any clue?Thanks

dont have those codes to hand, but did a search and all appear to be invalid data or data interupted...

2 refer to vehicle speed and odometer...maybe speed sensor failed.

2 refer to security.....maybe an immobiliser problem

maybe a power interuption somewhere...check the fuses, battery connections, earth leads etc

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dont have those codes to hand, but did a search and all appear to be invalid data or data interupted...

2 refer to vehicle speed and odometer...maybe speed sensor failed.

2 refer to security.....maybe an immobiliser problem

maybe a power interuption somewhere...check the fuses, battery connections, earth leads etc

so what you think ,does this sound like an expensive or cheap problem?thanks

cant answer that im afraid..diagnostics isnt as black and white when it comes to codes

Following on from what Tony said:

D147 - Missing / Invalid Vehicle Security Data could be that the PATS system has lost the pairing to the key (probably needs an auto locksmith to repair it with Ford IDS)

I just found this on a Mustang forum:

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D900 - Some sort of communication blip has occurred, this doesn't mean that there is a fault necessarily, but it shows that the car has lost communication with itself (when all the lights went out on the dash for example).

E197 and E200 as Tony said, refer to an invalid data for vehicle speed and odometer (this could indicate either a faulty instrument cluster, or could be related to the D900 error you saw above)

A103 is the Antenna Not Connected Error.

These could be indicative of a wiring issue on the car. But as Tony said, you cant diagnose a car solely on the readings of the error codes.

What happens when you turn the key to position II (not started the engine but all electrics are on?)

What do you see or hear? do you see dashboard lights flicker like crazy? hear a clicking in the passenger side? see headlights flicker? I suspect you may do and so would suggest you get the battery looked at.

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Hmm this is all so confusing,when i turn the key to position II is all normal like before just the lights come on than more of them came off,and than i hear just one click that the start is ready to i think,and when i go to start the engine nothing,,yes yes i see one red light just to the middle od the tempometer and the fuelmetter going on and off crazy,basicly i think i have elctricity but cant start,and the engine system failure shows on the dashboard,, :( desperate

That is the immobilizer.

The immobilizer is not recognizing the key, and therefore is refusing to start the car. Do you have a spare key? if so try and start the car with the spare key! that should allow you to at least drive the car to a dealer, or a garage with FORD IDS software so that they can re-pair your key and car!

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Hmm i have one other key but it doesnt have buttons is just key doesnt have imobilaizer i think.

Immobilizer chip is in the key not the fob

So if it's just a key problem then your other key should work.. If it doesn't then it's a fault elsewhere in immobilizer system

Shame you missed original question about wether engine was turning over or not ;)

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but if

Immobilizer chip is in the key not the fob
So if it's just a key problem then your other key should work.. If it doesn't then it's a fault elsewhere in immobilizer system
Shame you missed original question about wether engine was turning over or not ;)

i tested the other key too,no start.but what does it have to do with imobilizer when i se the :engine fault system?it would say imobilizer fault maby?just a dummy question :/

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That is the immobilizer.

The immobilizer is not recognizing the key, and therefore is refusing to start the car. Do you have a spare key? if so try and start the car with the spare key! that should allow you to at least drive the car to a dealer, or a garage with FORD IDS software so that they can re-pair your key and car!

But if is imobilizer,why is there the engine fault system mesagge?i just tryed the other key and nothing again cant start.And how did all this happen,any reasson,how did get my imobilizer out of controll so sudenly?Thanks

There isnt a particular "immobilisers fault" message, so I believe it comes under the system fault message.

Try the other key, if it works, then you know its an "easy" fix (get the key re-paired) if it doesn't work, then there is a fault with the immobilisers most likely, which contributes to the engine system failure (immobilisers is a key part of this system)

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There isnt a particular "immobilisers fault" message, so I believe it comes under the system fault message.

Try the other key, if it works, then you know its an "easy" fix (get the key re-paired) if it doesn't work, then there is a fault with the immobilisers most likely, which contributes to the engine system failure (immobilisers is a key part of this system)

hmm is it expensive?can i do it worshops or only to the FORD base?i must add i have the ESP sytem fault mesagee too on board as i told earlier but it net got me any problem.

Worst case scenario, you may be looking at an immobiiser failure, I really couldnt think how much it would cost for a replacement unfortunately, but you might find that the ESP and this is actually a wiring issue. It could be the wiring harness, but it might not be, I think your best bet is to go to ford directly.

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Worst case scenario, you may be looking at an immobiiser failure, I really couldnt think how much it would cost for a replacement unfortunately, but you might find that the ESP and this is actually a wiring issue. It could be the wiring harness, but it might not be, I think your best bet is to go to ford directly.

what damages the imobilizer ?so other times to know from what to be aware.bad news to hear,but i will try the cheap method going to my friends garage before i go to FORD witch i predict that the bill for only the ESP will be around 1000euros,imagine the imobilizer too,that will be around 2000euros both...so first the cheap way :/ i will keep updatet

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Still i wander mykey works perfectly outside all three buttons open the car,so my imobilizer is fine??maby my keys battery are dying maby,i just guess :/

The immobiliser and central locking are two seperate systems. my cars key can be programmed to your central locking to unlock your doors! however, my key would not have been coded to the immobiliser.

Start with your spare key, that key might start the car! if it doesnt, then you need to consider the further worries!

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