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#151 neps

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:22 AM

Are we sure that the big loom he allready have in the car, does not have a open unused connector for the BT loom? If he has a open connector that fits the bt loom then theres just the 1710952 loom that is needed. -If not then this mens that retrofit from NO BT-> BT+USB is much more complicated on 2010+ models than on 2009 where the BT loom goes straight to the radio.

Thegame, I guess it will be easier to use a 2009 BT harness, and source a 2009 headunit. I have a extra one for sale. Or you
buy the parrot harness and make the diy adaptor to fit it to you 2010 headunit.

Nicklas, why did you install the "big loom" from a 2010 car in your 2009 ?

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:09 AM

I just checked and I don't see any loose connectors near the GEM. not knowing which loom to use and where to plug it in is kinda irritating.

Is it possible to hook a 2009 radio module (two connectors) with a 2009 screen to a 2011 loom ( with the one big connector)? If that is possible i am better off buying those. Any idea if it will work?

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:45 AM

I first thought it would work, since the 2009 BT harness includes both radio connectors for the 2009 radio. BUT it need connection to/from one of the connectors on the old radio harness, wich provides Canbus, +12VDC and speakers.

So it would work but still require adapting 2010 to 2009 connections. Schematics and partnumbers are provided earlier. Im thinking of putting together a blogpost on my website with all this knowledge, pinouts, schematics and partnumbers Ive gathered the last weeks.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:52 PM

I installed the big loom without knowing that the models were diferent.. It was first afterwards I noticed that there was a diference in the models..

DUMB AS I AM!

 

So the work was pretty much wasted and i installed the old loom again.

 

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I'll take some pictures when i get home again of the big loom and post them here

 

this is where it should be located, under the radio...

connecting the bluetooth loom

 

how do you upload a picture in this forum??



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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:29 PM

Via tinypic.com !!

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 04:53 PM

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The free connector should sit in the "slot" here and get connected to the bt-loom. 



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Posted 28 March 2013 - 04:58 PM



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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:07 PM

Thats not where I looked. So I should find a free connector underneath my radio and the loom you and Neps have click in there, radio stays the same. Extra loom goes to underneath the basket?

@Neps: how hard is it to remove the radio etc to get to this?

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:35 PM

Thats not where I looked. So I should find a free connector underneath my radio and the loom you and Neps have click in there, radio stays the same. Extra loom goes to underneath the basket?

@Neps: how hard is it to remove the radio etc to get to this?


Correct.

Its pretty straight forward to remove.

First pry off the cover around/above the display. Its only fastened with clips.
Then you will see 4 bolts. 2x 6mm down into the radio. And 2x torx t20 for the button control panel. Undo all those bolts.
Now remove the hidden compartment cover, it will make it earlier to pry off the controlpanel fascia. Remove the connector for the controlpanel. Then you are left with the headunit. It slides like a drawer, just pull it straight towards you.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:51 PM

I"ll take a look when I have bought the deluxe screen. Want to built that one in anyways.


So I should have the connector you hold near your finger Nicklass?

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:16 PM

The connector my finger is touching is the connector from the bluetooth loom..

 

The one you want to have is the the one it clips into. :)

If you have this one, it should be ready to hooked up!

I'll post some pictures of the exact one when i'm home again on sunday.

 

I am 90% sure that I have a big/deluxe screen at home.. I also have a 9-button "control panel"  

They are both for sale if you're interested :)



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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:52 PM

Yeah pics would be great. Ill take a look in the car this weekend hopefully. Neps, what did you use to open up the top cover of the screen with the clips?

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:53 PM

And Nicklass if it fits i'm absolutely interested in the parts!

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:23 AM

Just use your fingers :)

You will understand when trying. Grab the cover on the back of the screen and work your fingers in under it. Then just pull upwards. You could also use a plastic prybar. You get them on most hardware stores, or where they sell tools.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:44 PM

 This is the big loom                                                 Bluetooth-loom connector (back)

 (bigger picture http://i46.tinypic.com/1zyabzb.jpg)

 

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Side                                                                           Front

 

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