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#31 amarokuk

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Posted 20 December 2009 - 10:26 AM

here is a little tip take a pump with you also because if you get really stuck deflate your driving wheels.this will improve the coverage of the tires improving grip due to the surface area covered by the tires.also a lot of our European members most probably change there wheels to winter tires.which have a softer rubber compound so that the rubber does not freeze making the tyre have more traction.


I wouldn't recommend deflating your tyres that will increase the surface area of the tyres in contact with the snow/ice and therefore reduce traction due to less weight in the contact surface. Much better to increase the tyre pressure a little to reduce the surface area in contact and therfore give more traction.
Narrow wheels are always better in snow as they have more weight on the contact area, in fact in the past I have kept a set of basic steel rims for winter use only on cars with very wide low profiles fitted.

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Posted 20 December 2009 - 01:19 PM

here is a little tip take a pump with you also because if you get really stuck deflate your driving wheels.this will improve the coverage of the tires improving grip due to the surface area covered by the tires.also a lot of our European members most probably change there wheels to winter tires.which have a softer rubber compound so that the rubber does not freeze making the tyre have more traction.



defo bad idea...it also means the tyre will take ages to get any temperature in.

If it is pumped up a little the tyre surface area is smaller but grip is greater, it has more bite and the smaller area is more likely to get some sort of heat it than a big sploggy area!! :)

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:13 PM

defo bad idea...it also means the tyre will take ages to get any temperature in.

If it is pumped up a little the tyre surface area is smaller but grip is greater, it has more bite and the smaller area is more likely to get some sort of heat it than a big sploggy area!! :)

that is advice given by the AA let your tyres down a few psi and it will make a lot of difference just quoting what was told on a driving course involving all bodies including AA.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:23 PM

The snow is melting :(

NEED MORE SNOW!!!! :)

Apparantly they just shut Luton Airport coz of snow, it just needs to come a few miles to the east and there will be a nice top-up of snow here in Herts

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:23 PM

that is advice given by the AA let your tyres down a few psi and it will make a lot of difference just quoting what was told on a driving course involving all bodies including AA.


I can see some logic and some flaws with that advice - narrower surface area will give more pressure and help make better contact with the surface; wider tread means more chance of contact, but less pressure.

I'm struggling a lot in the snow/ice/slush with my tyres and they are 18/40/225 ... the old 14/65/185 on the Fiesta were miles better!

I'm in Luton and the snow is really coming down - hardly any wind and massive clumps. We have already had six inches of snow from last week yet to clear ... bad times!!

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:27 PM

what a day...trying to teach on ice was interesting, but they did well!

Had some fun in a car park...very empty...very abandoned I will add...loverly!!

snow due tonight...gona make hell for driving tommorrow!!

Regarding the tyres...please don't let your tyres down, even a few PSI....an AA man once bought a car to me garage coz it had broken down and wouldn't restart and he couldn't work out what was wrong....it was out of fuel...AA aren't the kings of the road!!

Do this...go for a walk...if you are struggling to walk coz of the slippy conditions...don't drive!!!

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:57 PM

it's snowing in hemel as well good do with another 3 inches to go on top of the stuff from b4....Regarding the tyres...please don't let your tyres down, even a few PSI....an AA man once bought a car to me garage coz it had broken down and wouldn't restart and he couldn't work out what was wrong....it was out of fuel...AA aren't the kings of the road!! o and it was not just them saying it onest

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:59 PM

it's snowing in hemel as well good do with another 3 inches to go on top of the stuff from b4....



Its starting to drop in Stevenage too, about half an inch, settling well on top of existing snow and melted patches, getting heavier. BRING IT!

epic snow ftw

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 06:49 PM

had a few inches overnight here. managed to get the ST out of the garage no problem thanks to the high torque and very little, if any. throttle. Also managed to take my parents home after they got back from holidays last night without any problem. had reports from their neighbours that the streets round the estate were "treacherous", but i had no trouble whatsoever. Kept it going slow and changed down the box to slow down instead of braking and didn't skid once, even though the street was very icy :P

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 08:00 PM

yeah...untill I began to use my handbrake for corners I was fine too!!

ha ha, the old derv torque was brill, used all gears and no throttle, just idle, pulled along nicely!
thats the way! :)

although was fun, going sideways on ice/snow in the abandoned car park...surprised how easy the festa was to keep in perfect control on the ice whilst sliding...well done Ford :)

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 08:05 PM

I'm off for a drive down to mid France next week where they have proper snow! I'll be grateful for all these tips, and stability control and traction control of course.

I couldn't help myself to a cheeky little tug at the handbrake though going round a slow tight turn, much fun and lots of giggling like a Japanese school girl!


If you're driving in France, take note:

If you are driving in the mountains in the winter - in both France and Switzerland - it is compulsory to carry snow chains in the vehicle.

http://geneva.angloi...nd/snow_ice.asp

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 09:49 PM

It's been hell around my way this evening!

The side roads off of my road are so bad. People have not been able to drive up them and have been sliding back down into my road, parking up and walking to their homes!

My neighbours haven't been able to put their cars on their driveways as they are on steep inclines. Next door tried and slid back down into the path of an oncoming car! The driver swerved, wheels locked and he skidded in to my car parked in the road!! Not much damage to mine, thank god! It's about to be put in for the scrappage deal anyway. Glad I've not got the new KA yet!! Would not have been happy if it were the new one! Quite pleased Fords are dragging their heels now!!

He started going mental at my neighbour, saying he wants her insurance! Erm, well shouldn't he have been giving his insurance details to me? It was my car he hit! He says his car now has total loss of steering and it's her fault. I can't see that, surely it's due to the poor driving conditions. He says he was "only doing about 10mph". Well he may have been (I doubt it) but I still can't see it's down to her and her insurance company. He's lucky I'm not wanting to claim from him!

He didn't hit my car that hard, only a bumper scratch on mine. I think he must have bounced off of a curb or something. Would that cause total loss of steering?

Anyway people, please be careful out there! Safe motoring!

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 09:51 PM

Claim from him. Sounds like a complete berk.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 09:58 PM

Claim from him. Sounds like a complete berk.


Well I was silly (hubby has told me off)
I told him I'm doing the scrappage so not to worry! This was directed at my neighbour as she was very upset and felt it was her fault! I said it to calm her down!

This guy lives up the road anyway, I do know who he is.

If he pesters my neighbour again. He'd already screamed and swore at her in front of her 83 year old mum and was then at her door demanding he wants her insurance details tonight! This I didn't know until she told me. In my opinion, it wasn't her fault, he lost control of HIS car!

If he keeps on at her I'll tell him I want HIS details.

Still can't see why he's lost steering though!

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 10:09 PM

He sounds like a prune...but it will need to go this way...

He needs to claim off her insurance, her loss of control caused him to lose control/swerve.

They look at all factors, like his speed, BUT, if she had NOT lost control, there would have been no action needed from him.

And if you wanted to claim, you may go through his insurance, but its likely they would then claim off her insurance for the above reason.

You could argue about stopping distances and speeds all night...but all insurance look at is who CAUSED the collision...technically it was your neighbour...as much as I want it to be the berk!! :lol:

my estate the same...I actually NEEDED to use handbrake to turn into my drive, 2mph, literaly, no steering, handbrake flick, turn in, perfectly parked! :lol:

only did it coz at end of row in corner of lil culdesak, so nout to go wrong! was fun though and hope it looked cool! :lol:

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