Hi

Cam chain on my wife's mk 7.5 2014 fiesta which has done 75k miles snapped on Saturday. Due to Ford recommending changing the chain at  150k or 10 years, what are my chance of them paying for repair? Or am I clutching at straws? 

They'll just put it down to it being a wear and tear item and bin you off. Maybe if you kick and scream they'll give you a discount, but I wouldnt expect them to pay the whole bill.

Thought as much 😂

Which engine is it?  Chains don't usually snap so guessing it's actually a belt instead?

If you've got full service history I'd definitely try Ford for a goodwill gesture at least.  Obviously out of warranty but that's still very early for a belt to snap unless another part failed and took it out.

1ltr ecoboom mate, unfortunately can't price full service history even though it has been serviced. 

Just looked into it a bit more and looks like the 1tr has a submersed belt? Which I presume its recommended to have a it changed 75k miles? 

Ecoboost wet belt is indeed 150k or 10 years.  Have you had the car from new and invoices for all services? 

Yeah the 1.0 EcoBoost uses a wet belt, but that should help it last longer!!  150k/10 years is the correct interval for them.  

Its important to use the correct oil though, and not use engine flushes.  If it's been serviced at an indy dealer that could explain why the belt has failed so early.

 

2 minutes ago, iantt said:

Ecoboost wet belt is indeed 150k or 10 years.  Have you had the car from new and invoices for all services? 

Unfortunately no service receipts as done by a mechanic friend for parts price only. We bought it 2 years ago from private dealer 

3 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Yeah the 1.0 EcoBoost uses a wet belt, but that should help it last longer!!  150k/10 years is the correct interval for them.  

Its important to use the correct oil though, and not use engine flushes.  If it's been serviced at an indy dealer that could explain why the belt has failed so early.

 

That's probably where to problem lies which of course Ford will say as it hadn't been serviced through them I have no chance. 

3 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Yeah the 1.0 EcoBoost uses a wet belt, but that should help it last longer!!  150k/10 years is the correct interval for them.  

Its important to use the correct oil though, and not use engine flushes.  If it's been serviced at an indy dealer that could explain why the belt has failed so early.

 

That was going to be my next comment, if engine flush has been used previous services, that will dramatically shorten the life of the belt. 

 

Waiting on Ford to tell us the exact damage caused, which will hopefully be in the morning. Of course we were travelling at approx 60 mph when it went 😭

I'm afraid your up that creak without a paddle. 

Just now, iantt said:

I'm afraid your up that creak without a paddle. 

Thought as much 

It's probably going to need a new engine. Expensive bill. 

Definitely more than the car is worth then 

11 hours ago, iantt said:

It's probably going to need a new engine. Expensive bill. 

Had the dreaded call, new engine £5k

1 hour ago, bananacat said:

Had the dreaded call, new engine £5k

£5k!?  😮  

You could try and source a used engine instead maybe?  Although obviously there's no guarantee of how long that might last.  

 

Not going to bother already had to replace turbo and clutch in it, just not worth more cost 

Thats a new one as i have never read on here on a snapped belt on a EcoBoost before.

I was going to say engine job,is there any car these days if the belt goes it dont bend the rods and puts some nice hole in the pistons,i had this on my old CVH escort belt went

and re-con engine.

25 minutes ago, bananacat said:

Not going to bother already had to replace turbo and clutch in it, just not worth more cost 

Surely it'll 'cost' about £5k to scrap the car though?  At least you could get some money back from it by fitting a used engine and selling it on?

5 minutes ago, jace1969 said:

Thats a new one as i have never read on here on a snapped belt on a EcoBoost before.

There has been the odd one or two on here but it's not common...yet!!

I would chuck a used engine in , that will probably still cost £1300 ish. 

Just out of curiosity, is anyone able to tell me in a nutshell why the engine flush is a bad idea for a “wet belt”? 

Did do an engine flush on my previous car which was fine as chain driven but curious to see technical implications of doing that for the 1.0 ecoboost, especially as that’s actually something that my local dealer offers as an add on job to a service.

5 hours ago, iantt said:

I would chuck a used engine in , that will probably still cost £1300 ish. 

That would then take total spent on the car repairs to at least 4k in 2 years, need rid of it really but was tempted with a recon engine 

46 minutes ago, DG97 said:

Just out of curiosity, is anyone able to tell me in a nutshell why the engine flush is a bad idea for a “wet belt”? 

Similar effect I believe to neglecting changes or not using the specified grade of oil. It causes premature degradation of the belt with fragments ending up in the oil pump, as we have seen in other threads, or the weakened belt to break, as here.

Still puzzled as to why, in view of this, Ford have extended the service interval on the Fiesta which still has the wet belt, as opposed to the revised 1.0 in the Focus, which now has a chain.