6 hours ago, Danny E said:

Just had a look at the latest Focus Brochure (Nov 20) and all reference to "Speed Sign Recognition" has been deleted, however, the brochure still refers to "Traffic Sign Recognition" which is an optional extra (part of the driver assist pack). I believe from my experience with this issue, that ford have removed or disabled the Sat Nav input from the Focus and Fiesta built after or during Aug 2019 (MY2020). Can't comment on other models in the ford range. Both Focus and Fiesta owners manuals still refer to data from the sat nav system. Strange

My focus registered end of September 2019, so not sure if built before or during Aug 19. 
I definitely don’t have the driver assist pack extra. I have some kind of speed sign recognition as standard (STX) . Doesn’t work half the time. Though i do get speed camera ‘caution’ warnings. 
 

It does work on my car and sometime too well, there are a couple of place where this happens near me,  for example

The main road is a 30 limit, but there is a 5 mph sign at the entrance to the car park that is not quite square on to the road, and my car picks this up every time I pass. First noticed when I had the limiter on and after leaving the roundabout the car just wouldn't accelerate 😂

With lockdown easing I'm finding that my speed limit recognition system is wrong more than it is right. I've now discovered that it can't "see" overhead motorway speed limit signs, has missed national speed limit signs meaning it keeps flashing the last limit at me until It finally sees another sign, tells me it's 60mph when it's actually a 30mph high street. Going the other way it has briefly displayed 120mph!!!! (If only), it's also seen a 10mph sign that didn't apply along with a 60mph limit on a roundabout for a road I wasn't taking which meant, going in the opposite direction, it flashed at me for about ten miles of motorway.

IMHO, with the limiter on, the system is downright dangerous. With it off, it's distraction which could also be dangerous. I can't see the dealer being able to do anything. Has anyone contacted Ford?

Also, my collision alert system springs to life occasionally when there is nothing on the road! Fortunately goes off before it applies the brakes but it's scary when it happens.

You're seeing the same issues many others have experienced. It doesn't help when Fords Maps are out of date as the system actually uses a combination of GPS data and sign recognition to function. Fords get out of course is that you shouldn't rely on it which of course you can't.

Re collision alert ,reduce the sensitivity to avoid false alerts.

My collision alert is hyper sensitive too.  I absolutely hate it.  I have unchecked automatic braking as I don't trust it, and it is on lowest sensitivity but it's crap.

I am tempted to cover the camera/sensor cos I don't need the speed sign thing either so won't miss it.

I'm lucky so far that my car seems to be working as it should, with no problems reading the Speed signs. I don't have the Speed alert turned on as I do sometimes tend to drive a little faster than the limit and having the car telling me that constantly would just annoy me.

2 hours ago, Guy Heaton said:

I am tempted to cover the camera/sensor cos I don't need the speed sign thing either so won't miss it.

You could always turn it off in the settings off if your speed sign issue is a problem.

I'm guessing those who the collision alert keeps going off are the same people who drive right up my ***** end. 🤣

No, not at all.  It can't cope with dog-leg giveways, it can't cope with parked cars and narrow streets, it can't cope with safe, quick overtakes.   It is badly implemented and the car is worse than it would have been if CA was not installed in the first place.

All I would like is to be able to disable it completely.  If other people want it great, just let me turn it off.

Are we taking collision detection (the red flashing warning) or parking assist, my CA very rarely goes off, but PA does sometimes seem hyper sensitive, but that is turned off at the push of a button.

3 hours ago, unofix said:

I'm lucky so far that my car seems to be working as it should, with no problems reading the Speed signs. I don't have the Speed alert turned on as I do sometimes tend to drive a little faster than the limit and having the car telling me that constantly would just annoy me.

You could always turn it off in the settings off if your speed sign issue is a problem.

You can set it to be within a certain parameter. Mine goes from green to red on the HUD once you go over the limit.

1 hour ago, Guy Heaton said:

It can't cope with dog-leg giveways, it can't cope with parked cars and narrow streets

Hi Guy, although I consider the system on my car to be working ok, I do agree with you about the 'Dog-Leg giveways' and the parked cars in narrow streets. There is one stretch of road I travel often with the dog-leg on and the first few times my colision alert went off and frightened the life out of me. I have since learnt that if I just touch the brake a few seconds before I get there it stops the system going in to melt-down.

You are right that you should have the option to turn it off if you want to, after all it would only be one extra Tick Box on the selection menu that is already there.

13 minutes ago, Wino said:

Mine goes from green to red on the HUD once you go over the limit.

Hi Wino --- HUD !! I've only got a Ford Focus not a fighter Jet 🤣. I just keep the speed sign recognition system turned on and the speed limit alert off and I'm quite happy.

5 hours ago, Guy Heaton said:

It is badly implemented and the car is worse than it would have been if CA was not installed in the first place.

The camera is in the windscreen, if that were to somehow get damaged , used to be insurance companies would charge £80 to fix windows regardless of the amount of damage. Not sure if they’d replace a lidar camera though 🤔.

What about warranty? Complaint being over sensitive ,faulty camera..? 

I just meant a bit of duck tape to be honest.  😂

I've realised what I want is a new version of the w204 Merc I had.  Lots of invisible passive safety tech but nothing that mithered me. 😂

 

23 minutes ago, Guy Heaton said:

I just meant a bit of duck tape to be honest.  😂

I've realised what I want is a new version of the w204 Merc I had.  Lots of invisible passive safety tech but nothing that mithered me. 😂

 

Going from Merc to Ford must’ve hurt! 

Yes and no.  I liked the badge and the rwd but I haven't missed the repair bills.

14 hours ago, Alex.S said:

The camera is in the windscreen, if that were to somehow get damaged , used to be insurance companies would charge £80 to fix windows regardless of the amount of damage. Not sure if they’d replace a lidar camera though 🤔.

What about warranty? Complaint being over sensitive ,faulty camera..? 

Why wouldn't an insurer cover the repair costs of everything connected to the windscreen, including recalibration?

It's in for a service 2nd June, I might mention it to them.  

3 hours ago, Guy Heaton said:

It's in for a service 2nd June, I might mention it to them.  

Nothing to lose. If they refuse , maybe speak to Auto Windscreens for advice, they must fit and fix this tech a lot these days. As Sprawlsy says recalibration. I don’t know what that’d involve, I’d make a phone call might be an easy fix . 
Btw had 1st service couple of weeks ago 17,500. 
Oil life estimate was spot on , had like 5% left on it. Reset to 100% obviously. It’s gone down to 90% in 2 weeks!

Est.date:Jan2022

so 8 months. 🤔 

I thought it’d be 36,000miles or 2 years again. 

 

1 hour ago, Alex.S said:

Oil life estimate was spot on , had like 5% left on it. Reset to 100% obviously. It’s gone down to 90% in 2 weeks!

Est.date:Jan2022

so 8 months. 🤔 

I thought it’d be 36,000miles or 2 years again. 

 

I think the Oil Life estimate is total bunkum,  pretty sure if you had a service set it to 100% and left the car parked on the garage forecourt for a year it would say 0%

11 minutes ago, Mark-UK said:

I think the Oil Life estimate is total bunkum,  pretty sure if you had a service set it to 100% and left the car parked on the garage forecourt for a year it would say 0%

That's exactly what it is supposed to do, it's counting down time too.

Well it’s down 10% in 2 weeks. When from new it lasted 15 months. At this rate their estimated oil life being next January is probably correct. Am I right in saying oil life in most older cars was simply 1 year? There’s definitely more factors on this one...

Mine's going to get to zero in about a month, which will be 23 months and a little over 9k miles.

Tbh if it was my own car I'd have changed it every year.

Pretty much in time for the 2 year service. Whereas mine was in time for 18,000 miles 

6 hours ago, alexp999 said:

That's exactly what it is supposed to do, it's counting down time too.

If oil life is time based how do they keep it in storage, it must be going off all the time, do the cans of oil have use by dates on.

It's not telling you the condition of the oil in your engine, just a percentage of time between when ford want you to spend money on a oil change.

5 hours ago, Alex.S said:

Well it’s down 10% in 2 weeks. When from new it lasted 15 months. At this rate their estimated oil life being next January is probably correct. Am I right in saying oil life in most older cars was simply 1 year? There’s definitely more factors on this one...

My last car a Nissan Micra which I had for 14 years from new, it was every two years or 18000 miles, engine never missed a single beat, with modern oils every 12 months is just a money grab.

My focus several times when I first got it popped up the oil dilution warning, one dealer said it HAD to be changed or it could damage the engine, ford did software update, and it's never happen in the 18 months since, a lot of people must have spent a lot of money on totally unnecessary oil changes.