Has anyone tried running HVO fuel 

Think your post is the wrong place, this is a car forum not a chip shop 🤣

😂

18 hours ago, Lee190 said:

Has anyone tried running HVO fuel 

Hi Lee,

I had to look up what HVO fuel is ... is it compatible with the 1.5tdci? I tried a quick Google but couldn't find anything conclusive. I haven't yet had the sense to check the handbook 🙄but will do...

FUEL QUALITY - DIESEL



WARNING:  Do not mix diesel with gasoline, gasohol or alcohol. This could cause an explosion.

 

Use diesel that meets the specification defined by EN 590 or the relevant national specification.

Your vehicle is suitable for use with biodiesel blends up to 7% (B7).

Note:   We recommend that you only use high quality fuel. We do not recommend the use of aftermarket fuel additives or other engine treatments.

Note:   We do not recommend the use of additional additives to prevent fuel waxing.

2 hours ago, wordchild said:

I had to look up what HVO fuel is ...

Very understandable. I believe that there are only 3 or 4 filling stations in the whole of the UK. Price per litre is around £1.65 if you buy 5000 litres 🤣 otherwise it's about £3.00 per litre if you just want to fill your average car.

20 hours ago, Lee190 said:

Has anyone tried running HVO fuel 

I would ask Ford powertrain engineering directly, NOT open Forums.

My recommendation would be NO

I’ve emailed Ford but they directed me to my local dealer and there wasn’t much joy there either ,HVO is far better than bio diesel most manufacturers approve it for their engines now.Ive found  a press release from Ford approving it for the 2ltr eco blue engine but that’s all I can find 

Given the price unless buying in bulk why would you want to use it? It seems to be mostly aimed at fleet operators who are looking to "greenwash" their image. Unless you work for such an operator who lets staff fill up?

Can get it for free Eric 

5 minutes ago, Lee190 said:

Can get it for free Eric 

That's a very good price, then!😀

On 2/20/2024 at 12:59 PM, TomsFocus said:

FUEL QUALITY - DIESEL



WARNING:  Do not mix diesel with gasoline, gasohol or alcohol. This could cause an explosion.

 

Use diesel that meets the specification defined by EN 590 or the relevant national specification.

Your vehicle is suitable for use with biodiesel blends up to 7% (B7).

Note:   We recommend that you only use high quality fuel. We do not recommend the use of aftermarket fuel additives or other engine treatments.

Note:   We do not recommend the use of additional additives to prevent fuel waxing.

Thanks Tom - that's roughly what vaguely swam back into memory...after I'd posted my comment 🙄

I don't think HVO fuel meets EN590 standards so am guessing that pretty much answers it - which is shame in a way but then I can't get it for free 😅

On 2/20/2024 at 2:12 PM, DaveT70 said:

I would ask Ford powertrain engineering directly, NOT open Forums.

My recommendation would be NO

As above I don't doubt it's a No, but that said I'd be interested in what a powertrain engineer had to say - but is there any way to contact them direct...?

I doubt any of the Ford engineers would commit to saying it's fine due to the legal implications of doing so.  Though in fairness, the car is out of warranty now anyway so it's not their problem if you break it.

As it's free, you could always try a bit and see how the engine runs.  I'd probably start with a 25% mix, then 50% mix, etc rather than just sticking a tankful straight in.

Worst case scenario you'd need a new HP pump and/or injectors at some point in the future.  I might also be concerned with how it'll affect the DPF.

I did have a bit of experience with WVO (not a great one!) but haven't had any experience with HVO.

16 hours ago, Lee190 said:

Can get it for free Eric 

PS - obviously don't know your specific arrangements, but my brother in law worked as an HGV driver some years back, and the employer let the staff help themselves from the pumps for their private use. They fell foul of HMRC under BIK.

1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

I doubt any of the Ford engineers would commit to saying it's fine due to the legal implications of doing so.  Though in fairness, the car is out of warranty now anyway so it's not their problem if you break it.

As it's free, you could always try a bit and see how the engine runs.  I'd probably start with a 25% mix, then 50% mix, etc rather than just sticking a tankful straight in.

Worst case scenario you'd need a new HP pump and/or injectors at some point in the future.  I might also be concerned with how it'll affect the DPF.

I did have a bit of experience with WVO (not a great one!) but haven't had any experience with HVO.

I’ve ran it for 2 years in a 1.7 Isuzu engine without any problems ,just found this online would that connect be the same set up  as the Fiesta 

8 minutes ago, Lee190 said:

I’ve ran it for 2 years in a 1.7 Isuzu engine without any problems ,just found this online would that connect be the same set up  as the Fiesta 

I'm not familiar with the 1.7 Isuzu engine.  Does it use Piezo injectors and a DPF?

Unfortunately we don't have access to parts catalogues later than ~2016 so I can't double check if the commercial 1.5 EcoBlue uses exactly the same setup as the private cars.

Sorry I ment the courier 1.5 Duratorq ,that’s the same engine as the fiesta 

2 minutes ago, Lee190 said:

Sorry I ment the courier 1.5 Duratorq ,that’s the same engine as the fiesta 

1.5 Duratorq is the old 8 valve engine.  1.5 EcoBlue is the newer 16 valve engine.  (Although it is possible that website has got it's branding wrong)

However, the Courier is still a commercial vehicle, they're aren't necessarily built to the same specs as private cars as emissions requirements are different.

56 minutes ago, Lee190 said:

Sorry I ment the courier 1.5 Duratorq ,that’s the same engine as the fiesta 

As mentioned before, I wouldn't recommend it, but it WILL run.

Worst case it will destroy the HP pump and the injectors. More so the pump.

BUT, if the fuel is free the cost of a new pump and injectors every 20,000 miles or so may outweigh the cost of buying fuel, so if you're determined to try, try it.

But you have been warned

May be run 50/50, as advised?

Maybe run every fourth tankful on regular diesel with additives in?

Or maybe even put some 2 stroke oil in?

Thanks for your thoughts guys,there’s just a lack of information about HVO probably because it’s relatively unavailable over here but it will come,I’m sure most of Scandinavia use it.And whilst scouring the web I see the Royal Mail is one company that is using HVO in its vehicles from July last year.Il probably end up trying a 50/50 mix like Dave T70 suggested 

3 hours ago, Lee190 said:

Thanks for your thoughts guys,there’s just a lack of information about HVO probably because it’s relatively unavailable over here but it will come,I’m sure most of Scandinavia use it.And whilst scouring the web I see the Royal Mail is one company that is using HVO in its vehicles from July last year.Il probably end up trying a 50/50 mix like Dave T70 suggested 

Hi Lee, if you do go ahead, am hoping you'll pop back here sometimes to let us know how it goes - would be interested to hear if you're willing.

Is yours the 85 or 120ps version btw?

11 hours ago, wordchild said:

Hi Lee, if you do go ahead, am hoping you'll pop back here sometimes to let us know how it goes - would be interested to hear if you're willing.

Is yours the 85 or 120ps version btw?

The 120 ,yip the temptation to use it will eventually get the better of me 😂,il let you know if I get any problems 

Well been nearly 4 months and 6500 miles ,probably been running around  50/50 HVO never missed a beat ,touch wood 🤞

28 minutes ago, Lee190 said:

Well been nearly 4 months and 6500 miles ,probably been running around  50/50 HVO never missed a beat ,touch wood 🤞

Hi Lee,

That's great - thanks for returning with an update. 

Has it made any difference to mpg figures btw?