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    • Conservative
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    • Labor
      29%
      5
    • Lib Dems
      5%
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    • UKIP
      11%
      2
    • National Party Of Scotland ( SNP )
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I better wait till I get in the car to wish reading or hearing what's happened.... Or I won't be getting to work...



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Labour unable to win outright or form a majority Government :)

Conservatives on course for a majority..

Will be by the skin of their teeth though.

Not complaining, I'm happy for them to continue.

The markets have been responding positively since the exit polls last night.

Ed Balls loses his seat ! ! :) :) :)

Conservatives worry me... The amount of cuts they want to make, they are for the rich not the working man...

This could be a regrettable decision

Come on Conservatives!!

Bye bye labour! :D

Bye bye labour and lib dem I like, but I really think the country could regret this!

Labour are where they deserve to be - in the wilderness :)

Conservatives worry me... The amount of cuts they want to make, they are for the rich not the working man...

This could be a regrettable decision

I agree with you on that, but I don't think it will affect us that much (or it won't affect me much anyway). I voted Labour although I was very much on the fence until the last day or so. I preferred the local Labour candidate (in Elmet & Rothwell) and found out that I agree more with Labour's policies than other parties'.

Also with my Tory candidate being the local MP I could check on what he voted for, and didn't agree with a lot of it. Especially the fact that he voted against !Removed! marriage as did most tories. It only got through because of the massive support from Labour, and that's one of the things that helped me to make up my mind.

Edit: that's a very sensitive swear filter haha, but I think you all know what kind of marriage I was referring to.

Labour are where they deserve to be - in the wilderness :)

Actually it's kind of the opposite, Labour are in the cities and Conservatives are in the countryside haha.

All that really matters is that Labour are in opposition. :)

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Consv majority is the best outcome we could have hoped for, Everything seems to have picked up since 2010 and let it continue. The more people that get cut out of benefits and forced back into work the better.

Labour only ever really held decent seats in places where the rich thrive and poor people are too dependant on them, something has to have changed for them to have lost so many seats in these areas.

Scotland is another matter, why they have all gone nuts over what one person has to say is beyond me, not like the SNP has actually improved their lives in the past 5 years but hey. Almost a radical following they have now.

Conservatives worry me... The amount of cuts they want to make, they are for the rich not the working man...

This could be a regrettable decision

The thing is though, what are labour for? The working man? Not in my opinion. Over the past few months I've met:

Plumbers

Electricians

Painters

Decorators

Floor sanding men (not sure their description)

Carpenters

Communication engineers

Plasterers

Odd job men

All of the above are traditionally 'working men'... however a huge amount of those guys would technically be classed as 'businessmen' now, as they've formed their own companies... So for the majority they wanted and needed to vote for a government that was not hard on businesses and businessmen.. and for the rest that were simply self employed individuals, they didn't want to fund folk who are happy to permanently live off job seekers (without ever looking for a job!)...

I honestly think conservatives are for anyone that works in a trade and upwards.... Perhaps people that work for big companies might want to vote for labour, but self employed, small business owners had to vote conservatives.

Also I wish I was rich :lol: Pretty sure those on job seekers have a healthier bank balance than mine - which is another thing I thoroughly resent!

The thing is though, what are labour for? The working man? Not in my opinion.

The way I see it, it's more about the working class i.e. people on minimum wage or not much more than that (that's probably not a good definition of working class lol). Labour want a higher minimum wage than Conservatives, and they want lower tuition fees so that young people have a better chance to earn more in the future.

That's just my opinion anyway, and I'll be the first to admit that I don't have much understanding of the wider issues. Mainly I just think we need a better balance so the poor are less poor and the rich are less rich.

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Unless immigration is sorted out a higher degree is relatively pointless, too many people competing for to few a jobs, business related is too much about who you know rather than what.

Higher minimum wages are good, but has to come at a cost, mainly price increases which lead to a reduction in sales and it stumbles from there, so therefore you have to raise the tax thresholds for people earning to say 40-50K PA to be able to spend their money to keep a domestic economy afloat, it's sort of happening already, we are like a good £800 better off due to the threshold increase already over the past few years, better than nothing.

Just need some houses built now.............by UK Builders, Leccys and Plumbers.

The way I see it, it's more about the working class i.e. people on minimum wage or not much more than that (that's probably not a good definition of working class lol). Labour want a higher minimum wage than Conservatives, and they want lower tuition fees so that young people have a better chance to earn more in the future.

That's just my opinion anyway, and I'll be the first to admit that I don't have much understanding of the wider issues. Mainly I just think we need a better balance so the poor are less poor and the rich are less rich.

Well Phil, you're 100% entitled to your opinion. I don't begrudge your choice. Also, having read above your reasons, I think your hands were also somewhat tied because if you ever thought about conservatives, how could you vote for someone who is morally, or ethically opposite to yourself. I understand that completely!

I'd agree with you on who is who now. People working for large companies (supermarkets etc) are probably targets. A friend of mine said that he felt completely in middle ground... he was on a decent wage, so he wasn't going to be affected by minimum wage, he wasn't going to be affected by higher tax bands... but he doesn't like the idea of labour which was "bigger shoulders should carry greater loads"... he said "if I work harder and achieve more, why shouldn't I be able to help out my family/kids, why should I have to carry other people who don't want to work hard..?"

The big thing I despise with Ed Milliband is his short sightedness. Guys that have lots of money can pay to send their money elsewhere, so if you tax people to the end of the earth they'll head off to another country...

The cost of tuition fees never actually went up, it has been 9k for a long time.

Labour was just subsidising them, which means every UK taxpayer had to share the burden of picking up the other 6k per student per year.

Seems a much fairer system for it to be primarily put with the students wanting to go and in theory capable of earning more.

Maybe then they will seriously think about whether they should go, or if it would be better to do an apprenticeship, etc.

It is not even a debt, but people don't like hearing the word tax. Given how it is paid back, it is already (and always has been) a graduate tax.

I'd rather not pay for someone to use uni as a 3yr break from work... Seems that it didn't deter numbers, so I can't see the issue.

To add, as I said before I don't have much in my bank account right now, so I'm not rich by any means, however I don't see why people earning higher amounts should be taxed a higher percentage? They're paying more already...

10% of £100 is £10, 10% of £10,000,000,000 is £1,000,000,000..... so it's not like they're not paying a vast amount of money anyway...

Put it this way, I have a fiancée and we have a small start up business, we want to earn money to do what WE want to do, we want to have children and provide for them and if possible help get them on their feet.. so if there is a chance we'll get screwed financially for what we earn (if we ever earn enough), then I'll do what I can to send my money abroad...

Red Ed moribund Miliband to announce his resignation as Labour '' leader '' ? - the good news just keeps coming :)

Or for the record:

Tuition fees.. I know of a hungarian woman that came to the UK to work, she purposely works below the 10k threshold so as not to pay tax. She decided she wanted a nice red BMW, but how could she afford it? Hmmm, expensive.. guess what? Apply for a student loan, get one, buy red beemer and drop out of uni... no intentions of EVER paying back the money taken, no intention of ever staying at uni.... She did that a while ago apparently... so I can only say well done everyone, you bought her a car!

Farage comes 2nd behind Conservative

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That's nothing new, anyone remember Revs Magazine? I guarantee every Supra etc that cost 10K and had god knows how much spent on it was paid for via Student loans, tons of people splurge it all on cars and drugs and drink, surely they could have created a better system, such as students apply for it and the loan firms pays the uni directly?

That's nothing new, anyone remember Revs Magazine? I guarantee every Supra etc that cost 10K and had god knows how much spent on it was paid for via Student loans, tons of people splurge it all on cars and drugs and drink, surely they could have created a better system, such as students apply for it and the loan firms pays the uni directly?

That is how it works for the fees, money goes straight to the uni

But you are able to apply for a maintenance loan, to cover living costs too.

Red Ed moribund Miliband to announce his resignation as Labour '' leader '' ? - the good news just keeps coming :)

So long Millipede! Or should we say MiliBANNED! :lol:

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