Dapper Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Hi @fabgav, where did you get the front sensor from - what was the part number? I ordered a part from autodoc but... it didn't fit. I think it may be for a mk1 not my 2016 s-max. It looks as though this was the original part number however, if you've successfully purchased one I'll take your guidance. Annoyingly, I bought a scanner from amazon (Veepeak OBDCheck BLE bluetooth OBD II Scanner ), it works but no faults show on the car - even when the esc service lights all come on so no idea what the issue is. I'm just following advice from this section pointing to it probably being the front right abs sensor. 2C204 1877755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabgav Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 10 hours ago, Dapper said: Hi @fabgav, where did you get the front sensor from - what was the part number? I ordered a part from autodoc but... it didn't fit. I think it may be for a mk1 not my 2016 s-max. It looks as though this was the original part number however, if you've successfully purchased one I'll take your guidance. Annoyingly, I bought a scanner from amazon (Veepeak OBDCheck BLE Bluetooth OBD II Scanner ), it works but no faults show on the car - even when the esc service lights all come on so no idea what the issue is. I'm just following advice from this section pointing to it probably being the front right abs sensor. 2C204 1877755 I brought direct from Ford - about £40 i think. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394356913287?fits=Car+Make%3AFord&epid=3028022127&hash=item5bd180f487:g:rAQAAOSw5D5jhy3J&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0C%2FseETw04LyG%2Fovy0uDrsumRXU7pqEFPPEyjwzpxBrKvkQ1GNfbvViLWOc1dLvNUPo6y6Kr08VQm8ZN905SLmer6k7xLo9D90TEZag5cU43k9rETmK8%2F%2BcjrR4y%2BftFql934xKhaw3%2BfCmgXiKZyjMI44Ze3xniYgX%2By4fIfhY55IMS8b3Jszma2JISH2NzsG54%2BqCAYOQ%2Fxvj7eE%2BI8PRkbMZMeBDmOpb%2BoQCIcsc9yuedfODoGi1p9k0hf081msNTgLBCU8ycYmNJ3%2F9iLJg%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_bf6peEYg This is for the rear - but it looks like this type not the older type My standard bluetooth code ready wouldnt pick the codes up bt Forscan with a modified reader did bring codes up......annoyingly its now telling me its the front left sensor. I'll order that one and try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 That connection looks like the correct one however, as you mention, the 'rear' in the description is putting me off. I've messaged them to see if it still works or if there is a front specific one. Thanks for the tip on the Forscan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I found this on amazon - what did you modify to get it to work? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Forscan-Scanner-ELMconfig-FoCCCus-Diagnostic/dp/B07MQ8GHG3/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=24R40WF5UJ5LU&keywords=forscan&qid=1684225421&s=automotive&sprefix=forscan%2Cautomotive%2C67&sr=1-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1&smid=A35I0S57VEE27L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 If you're using FORScan, then there are only two cables/adapters that are recommended and are known to work fully. The ELM327(modified) is suitable for vehicles up to 2013 and the new vLinker FS cable is suitable for vehicles of all ages. ELM327(modified): https://tunnelrat-electronics.fwscart.com/details/p4541936_17045457.aspx OR use vLinker FS: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vgate-vLinker-Adapter-FORScan-MS-CAN/dp/B0952P4MLP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Thanks Unofix. So if I use that cable and connect it to a laptop with the FORscan software installed, I don't need the any other equipment - just this cable (2nd one for my 2016 s-max) and and laptop with the software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 That's all you need, nothing else. 👍 You might like to buy the full licence for FORScan (about £12) which gives you extra features but for basic use it's not necessary. FORScan (for windows): https://forscan.org/download.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabgav Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 The rear one I linked to eBay was jus6 to show the fitting type. It won't work on tje front. Best phone Ford. I'll check the bins layer see if I still have the packet with part number. Also I have the older style connector and that seems to be working with my 2017 plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 This is doing my head in. Will pop into ford later. Been onto their eBay parts site but they do not have it in stock! The link you sent me was, according to them not right for my car - 2016 plate. The part that sites keep saying are for my car have a sensor that is a different shape to the one in there now. This is the wrong one - I think it may just be for the back..... This is the connector on the one I removed from my front right wheel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Don't rely on website compatibility checks. They just go by a reg plate year, not reliable for cars built during a crossover year. Better off visually matching the one you've removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I was worried though that if I get one that says rear axle for the front right then it might make the car go a little crazy Thinking maybe this is beyond me and may just take to dealer. I changed the brakes and pads and that was a success but getting the right ABS sensor is a step to far 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Dapper said: I was worried though that if I get one that says rear axle for the front right then it might make the car go a little crazy Thinking maybe this is beyond me and may just take to dealer. I changed the brakes and pads and that was a success but getting the right ABS sensor is a step to far 🙂 The rear one won't fit the front. As in your photos, they're a different shape. As long as you get one the same as the one you removed, it'll be fine. Here's another option, though I can't find many on eBay. I suspect the part number has been superceded. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/145033747142? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 So my Forscan reader arrived today and running it has me in a slight panic mode. It came back with a lot of codes! PAM - U0415:00-28 BdyCM - B109F:97-0A C-CM - U0418:86-2C ABS - U0140:00-20 ABS - U0100:00-20 ABS - U3003:16-68 ABS - C0034:2F-68 ABS - C0034:07-68 ABS - C0051:67-68 ABS - C0034:15-20 RCM - U0253:00-28 All this because I thought I could solve the ESC service issue. It looks as though i do have a faulty right front speed sensor but it may be a whole lot more than that! Strange as I have no warning lights on the dash apart from the ESC service and all the related safety features disabled. May need to result to a ford garage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Don't panic !!! (well at least not just yet). All code that begin "Uxxxx xx xx" forget about just now. They are communication errors between modules and once the real fault is fixed they will, in nearly all cases just disappear. BdyCM - B109F:97-0A, ABS - C0034:2F-68, ABS - C0034:07-68, ABS - C0051:67-68, ABS - C0034:15-20 So next I'd put the DTC about the BdyCM to one side as it may just be to do with the alarm system, which is also tied in to the ABS unit. Now that only leaves the DTC's that relate to the actual ABS system ! What did FORScan have to say about each of the DTC's for the ABS ? It will have given information for each code, probably saying that there is an 'Open or Short circuit on a sensor' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Umm, I might have accidently cleared all the DTCs.. I'm left with two: BdyCM - Intrusion sensor module - component or system operation obstructed or blocked PSCM - U0415:00-0A - Invalid data received from anti-lock brake system - control module A - Module - power steering control module. I'll wait until the ESC warning comes on again - next time I drive it and will report back. Maybe this is all to do with the front right speed sensor as first thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabgav Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Ending 175 is front right drovers side abs sensor Ending 179 is front passenger side. I had about 5 DTCs jusy changed the front passenger side and all are cleared. It's easy. Car up, wheel off, small 8mm bolt behind brake disc holds sensor in. Prise gently with small flat screwdriver tje pull with the cable Pull all the claims away and where it connects to the other end there is a red bit of plastic that pulls outwards which then let's you push the quick connector tab down. If thay makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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