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1 hour ago, StephenFord said:

OK then.... aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........

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That shock took years off you 😂😂

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5 minutes ago, iantt said:

That shock took years off you 😂😂

I know, I even got my hair back!! 🤣

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The company I used to work for always had a problems with diesel being stolen from vehicles parked in the yard over night, I suspect with the rise in fuel costs recently  it's even more of an issue now.

At the end of the day if something has value, someone will try and steal it.

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16 hours ago, iantt said:

Let us know how you got on if you survive

A pair of thick rubber gloves and sturdy boots and you'd be fine. As soon as you shorted the cable the fuse or breaker would go in the supply.

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42 minutes ago, mjt said:

A pair of thick rubber gloves and sturdy boots and you'd be fine. As soon as you shorted the cable the fuse or breaker would go in the supply.

Lol, sounds like you've had practice, Mike! 😀

But joking apart, if someone just wants the cable for the scrap value, heavily insulated cutters are readily available online from tool specialists plus the usual marketplaces. If they want to sell the cable intact though, I guess they'd need to be a bit more clever.

There are a fair number of EVs left plugged in overnight around where I live, so I guess someone could make a couple of grand in a night just on the scrap value. 

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58 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

...If they want to sell the cable intact though, I guess they'd need to be a bit more clever.

 

I bet DiskLok already have a research team working on the issue LOL 🤣

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Have any of you tried scrapping stuff in the last decade?  You have to give loads of details and have any money paid into a bank account now.

Stealing the cable intact to sell privately would be the way to go ideally.

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9 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Have any of you tried scrapping stuff in the last decade?  You have to give loads of details and have any money paid into a bank account now.

Stealing the cable intact to sell privately would be the way to go ideally.

Sounds like we're coming up with a business plan here!

Well, they've made things a lot harder for honest folks, but obviously criminals can find buyers, given that the electricity distribution companies and Network Rail are still plagued by cable thefts.

Disposal of (legitimate) scrap used to fall under my responsibilities for a short time, and you were never quite sure about scrap dealers, even large operations that seemed pretty straight on the surface. One or two I encountered certainly seemed downright sinister (we used to refer to one as "the Godfather") and I was glad to pass that particular buck on to someone else at the earliest opportunity!

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2 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

Stealing the cable intact to sell privately would be the way to go ideally.

A transponder chip in the cable so it's only usable on a particular car might stop that problem

Brand new cables would need to be programmed to your car at the dealership, point of purchase (think Halfords) AA, RAC or authorised garages 

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5 minutes ago, Carl123 said:

A transponder chip in the cable so it's only usable on a particular car might stop that problem

Ah, but isn't there a chip shortage? They might well steal the cable for the copper and the chip!😀

 

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21 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

Ah, but isn't there a chip shortage? They might well steal the cable for the copper and the chip!

Round where I live, they'll take the charging station as well

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37 minutes ago, Carl123 said:

A transponder chip in the cable so it's only usable on a particular car might stop that problem

Brand new cables would need to be programmed to your car at the dealership, point of purchase (think Halfords) AA, RAC or authorised garages 

Excellent idea - wish I'd have thought about that! Oh... LOL

 

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6 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

Lol, sounds like you've had practice, Mike!

Actually in my whole working life in electronics I've never tried this :smile:.

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Another one in the "I hadn't thought of that" category. Wind turbine blades (normally made from glass fibre/composite materials) apparently have a service life of 20-25 years and it seems they are proving difficult to recycle, many ending up in landfill, though research is ongoing into a sustainable recycling method.

In other news, just reading that a Which? survey has found that EVs are proving more likely to develop a fault than ICE.

 "Motoring groups" dispute the findings. The RAC spokesperson said they are mostly software faults which can be resolved easily by updates or restarts like your home computer. So that's all right then!😀

Sounds a bit like a documentary I watched a while back about the new high tech F-35 Lightning jet fighter. Basically it wouldn't start up and they had to turn everything off and back on a couple of times to reboot it. I laughed at the time but given what's going on at the moment it doesn't seem quite so funny!

 

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16 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

In other news, just reading that a Which? survey has found that EVs are proving more likely to develop a fault than ICE.

 "Motoring groups" dispute the findings. The RAC spokesperson said they are mostly software faults which can be resolved easily by updates or restarts like your home computer. So that's all right then!😀

 

I also heard that on the news this morning, I actually laughed out loud! 🤣 Of course, when we're in blackouts due to no electrical power, those sensible ones with a proper ICE car can just get in and start it right up...

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43 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

I also heard that on the news this morning, I actually laughed out loud! 🤣 Of course, when we're in blackouts due to no electrical power, those sensible ones with a proper ICE car can just get in and start it right up...

If you can afford the petrol to put in it!! 🤣😂

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34 minutes ago, YOG said:

If you can afford the petrol to put in it!! 🤣😂

Yeah, I see the average for E10 (according to the RAC) is already over £1.52/litre. time to dust off the old jokes about doubling the value of your car by filling up!

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50 minutes ago, YOG said:

If you can afford the petrol to put in it!! 🤣😂

Fair point, the price of all energy in the last few weeks has sky rocketed. My recent electric bill rose 60% over last with a KwH now 22p. Also my heating oil (nearly all houses in NI are on oil as gas infrastructure was never installed during 'the troubles') is now 80p/liter, so to full up my 1400 liter tank is a considerable £1120 which will last about 6 to 8 weeks. (though now I just wear a coat/scarf in the house and only turn it on when temp drops to 15c inside house)

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1 hour ago, StephenFord said:

Fair point, the price of all energy in the last few weeks has sky rocketed. My recent electric bill rose 60% over last with a KwH now 22p. Also my heating oil (nearly all houses in NI are on oil as gas infrastructure was never installed during 'the troubles') is now 80p/liter, so to full up my 1400 liter tank is a considerable £1120 which will last about 6 to 8 weeks. (though now I just wear a coat/scarf in the house and only turn it on when temp drops to 15c inside house)

22p per kWh sounds reasonable tbh.  Mines going to be that on the cheap rate from April, 34p on day rate!!  :o. I'm not allowed to change supplier anyway but have wondered how that compares to others?

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1 hour ago, StephenFord said:

(though now I just wear a coat/scarf in the house and only turn it on when temp drops to 15c inside house)

Coat n scarf int house tha needs to MTFU @StephenFord 🤣

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1 hour ago, StephenFord said:

 (though now I just wear a coat/scarf in the house and only turn it on when temp drops to 15c inside house)

Maybe we're a bit soft nowadays. I remember as a kid, ice on the inside of my bedroom window in winter was a common occurence, and my Mum telling me to make sure I was wearing a thick jumper and coat if I wanted to play in there.😀

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24 minutes ago, Wino said:

Coat n scarf int house tha needs to MTFU @StephenFord 🤣

Yep, it's a hilarious situation alright! Sometimes I laugh so much, the shivers actually warm me up!

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4 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

In other news, just reading that a Which? survey has found that EVs are proving more likely to develop a fault than ICE.

 "Motoring groups" dispute the findings. The RAC spokesperson said they are mostly software faults which can be resolved easily by updates or restarts like your home computer. So that's all right then!

It's about time manufacturers put more effort into software resilience.

I see 'Vintage Voltage' are converting a BMW Isetta bubble car tonight. That should be interesting :ohmy:

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22 minutes ago, mjt said:

It's about time manufacturers put more effort into software resilience.

You mean like the time they programmed the airbag system to ask “Are you sure?” before deploying

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33 minutes ago, mjt said:

I see 'Vintage Voltage' are converting a BMW Isetta bubble car tonight...

Must admit my favourite so far has been the DeLorean DMC12. Well, how could it not be, we were both made in the same city! LOL

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