I'm not saying that some garages are blatantly profiteering, but...

Located - Ormeau Road, Belfast

53 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Not necessarily, but, it may stop the 'extinction rebellion' protester from gluing themselves to your bonnet 🤣

Fair play if they do manage to glue them selves to bonnet of car. Would be counter productive as that may encourage me to use more fuel killing more dolphins. I wonder how they would cope as I test the max speed of the dirty diesel with them eating bugs

1 minute ago, StephenFord said:

I'm not saying that some garages are blatantly profiteering, but...

Located - Ormeau Road, Belfast

Ah but see the drivers flock to high prices now on that forecourt. Monday empty. 

It will rise again just in time for payday 👍

24 minutes ago, Wino said:

It will rise again just in time for payday 👍

Or before.🤣🤣

My local Esso garage put diesel up 6p a litre yesterday. Today up another 9p!!! Crikey!! Now at 178.9 

Said it before,  for 99% of private drivers range anxiety is massively overstated. How many people regularly drive more than 150 miles a day for their private motoring .

Now I know we'll get some wise cracker spouting about how they drive to southern Italy 5 time a year on holiday (well you ain't done that since 2019) or travel from London to Lerwick each weekend to visit their mam, but for the vast vast majority of people who own a car they'll be doing short 30 to 40 miles to work and back, with a trip to the supermarket at the weekend.

Stephen says he doesn't fill up everyday, fair enough, so your tank is 10 gallons  and your getting 50mpg so 500 mile a tank, now EV range say a low 100 mile a charge, unless your filling up every 5 days, you could manage with an EV just charging at home. ( Stephen I'm not getting at you personally, just try to make the point that range anxiety is overstated )

If an EV only does 100 per charge, and you do it at home every day that's 36500 miles a year, and VERY few of us are doing that for private motoring.

The hopefully good news is that oil price has dropped today from $139 a barrel to $112 as UAE say "We favour production increases and will be encouraging Opec to consider higher production levels"

19 hours ago, Lozzareeves said:

I don't think this petition has aged very well. I think everyone with electric cars are laughing very hard at all of us right now...

Why?

Electricity prices are set to rise sharply also. Their calculations of how much money they will save on "fuel" compared to the cost of purchasing a new electric car could need serious revising

E.g. If they expected to recoup their initial investment on a new electric car in 5 years, this may have to be revised to 10 years if electricity prices double

 

I've used my own energy this morning and walked to work.

18 minutes and 3678 steps all for the cost of a sachet of porridge and 125ml milk and a cup of tea.

All to save the dolphins and a thimble full of fuel. 😄

2 hours ago, Carl123 said:

Why?

Electricity prices are set to rise sharply also. Their calculations of how much money they will save on "fuel" compared to the cost of purchasing a new electric car could need serious revising

E.g. If they expected to recoup their initial investment on a new electric car in 5 years, this may have to be revised to 10 years if electricity prices double

 

Most manufacturer have said by end of next year there will be a convergence on prices, for the same model an EV will cost the same as it's ICE version, it's not just saving on fuel, but VED and possibly servicing costs.

The decision then will be can charge at home  (obviously some can and other can't)

Last week I ordered 500 liters of home heating oil It cost £381

This week, 500 liters now costs £760

Is it allowed to express an opinion that someone should just assassinate that short bald Russian nutter??

(for historical reasons, Northern Ireland has the highest %age of reliance on oil for heating in Western Europe)

The sad thing is that were someone to do that he'd just be replaced by another.

5 minutes ago, mjt said:

The sad thing is that were someone to do that he'd just be replaced by another.

This.  It's not just one man...  

1 minute ago, TomsFocus said:

This.  It's not just one man...  

You see, I tend to disagree. The financial sanctions are now biting hard. The ruble is collapsing. The 'soft' Western style consumerism is rapidly withdrawing and the ordinary Russian 'man in the street' opinion is realising that Putin isn't necessarily the god that he believes. There could well be an appetite for change. One has to have hope...

 

"It's not just one man... "

Very true. He couldn't do what he's been doing over the years without the support of other powerful individuals.

10 hours ago, Mark-UK said:

Said it before,  for 99% of private drivers range anxiety is massively overstated. How many people regularly drive more than 150 miles a day for their private motoring .

I agree. Not everyone is in a position to have a home charger though, so a massive improvement in public charger availability and ease of payment is needed. Some areas have plenty of chsrgers, some very few. The thing that bugs me most though is the different payment systems which still, in many cases, require you to have an app and/or account with the charger provider. Once you can pay at all chargers with credit/debit card as with any other fuel, I'd be happier about making the switch.

1 minute ago, StephenFord said:

There could well be an appetite for change. One has to have hope...

That is really the only hope.

1 minute ago, mjt said:

 

Very true. He couldn't do what he's been doing over the years without the support of other powerful individuals.

You see, those rich powerful individuals are now being ostracised from the west, from enjoying their wealth - their support could be withdrawn...

Yes, not before time IMHO. There's been far too  much dodgy Russian money sloshing around London.

However his pal Xi will no doubt bail him out, using all the money we've been spending on Chinese goods. And once he's been seen to succeed in Ukraine you can bet Xi will be after Taiwan.

46 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

I agree. Not everyone is in a position to have a home charger though, so a massive improvement in public charger availability and ease of payment is needed.

Yes of course we need to invest more and quicker in public chargers, as we do in the whole renewable sector, we should have been doing it decades ago

We hear the "it's just a load of tree hungers" lobby all the time spouting their pro fossil anti green clap trap. Renewables  are energy security, if government had made solar panels compulsory on new builds years ago and given massive grant to get old builds converted, if we'd really put money into wave and tide power, spent much more on home insulation, we'd be in a far better position now.

We are stuck using  foreign oil and gas to power our nation, at the beck and call of the internation market prices.  Some say use fracking and our own gas and oil, but are we going to nationalize those industry's, because if not it will have ZERO effect on prices, as they would be private companies trading in a international market selling at international price.

For far too long we have under funded and had very short term energy policy's by all governments.

It's not just energy security. It's also food security. There's a battle going on to stop a massive solar farm project in Haverhill, Suffolk that will take 2,782 acres of productive farmland out of use. We should be putting solar panels on the roofs of buildings and other places that can't be used for any other purpose.

These idiots seem to have learnt nothing from history.

And yes, until we can manage without fossil fuels we should use local assets and nationalise them.

1 minute ago, mjt said:

These idiots seem to have learnt nothing from history.

Sadly, a very wide ranging statement!

2 hours ago, mjt said:

That is really the only hope.

Not true, there is another Hope, it's near Castleton in Derbyshire.

Ah, but that Hope starts with a capital letter.