18 minutes ago, Phantom76 said:

yes ordered MLPS it can be monitored in forscan it shows different voltage for each gear selected. i also had the limp mode issue and it turned out to be a loose jubilee clip at the throttle body and loosing boost would send the car into limp mode, i could flick the engine off and back on while still in gear and  fault would dispensary go to floor it again same issue, but i brought the revs up slowly it wouldnt be a problem   

Where in FORScan did you find the ability to monitor the MLPS I couldn’t find it?

thanks

 

 

Where in FORScan did you find the ability to monitor the MLPS I couldn’t find it?

thanks

20 minutes ago, Phantom76 said:

yes ordered MLPS it can be monitored in forscan it shows different voltage for each gear selected. i also had the limp mode issue and it turned out to be a loose jubilee clip at the throttle body and loosing boost would send the car into limp mode, i could flick the engine off and back on while still in gear and  fault would dispensary go to floor it again same issue, but i brought the revs up slowly it wouldnt be a problem   

Where in FORScan did you find the ability to monitor the MLPS I couldn’t find it?

thanks

Apologies I was having some issues posting that reply, would be grateful if any administrators could delete the duplicates above.

 

Thanks

im trying to find it agian im just that frustrated at the min with this thing i could burn it, went out to try and figure out this forsacan menu and i turned the car over and it started on the button, no lights on dash, its ticking over ok but when turn it off it runs on for a sec or 2 after ignition like its running rich and now got error code P02EC

i give up the car wins 

Anyone able to tell me where this vacuum hose goes to from the air filter housing ?? 

2 hours ago, Phantom76 said:

Anyone able to tell me where this vacuum hose goes to from the air filter housing ?? 

Does it join a hard white pipe just out of that picture?  If so, it goes round the back of the engine to a solenoid that controls the EGR cooler bypass.

12 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Does it join a hard white pipe just out of that picture?  If so, it goes round the back of the engine to a solenoid that controls the EGR cooler bypass.

im clutching at straws now hoping its not the wiring harness but would  the error code P02EC be related to a bad maf sensor or throttle body being stuck open 

14 minutes ago, Phantom76 said:

im clutching at straws now hoping its not the wiring harness but would  the error code P02EC be related to a bad maf sensor or throttle body being stuck open 

As the engine ran on after switch off, that would confirm the TB not closing when it should have done.  But that might be the result of another fault or wiring issue rather than the TB itself.  I don't think it's a MAF fault personally.

15 hours ago, ssmith93 said:

Where in FORScan did you find the ability to monitor the MLPS I couldn’t find it?

thanks

So I have had a good browse through FORScan, and the closest thing I can find to what you called 'TGE transmission gear engaged' was 'Transmission Gear Position'.

This just reads either 'Not Reverse' or 'Reverse' - I don't get a voltage out of it. I think this is likely the reverse gear switch which is a simple on/off push switch on a different location on the gearbox which gets activated when you put the lever in reverse.

The error that both you and I are getting is from the MLPS, which has a 'Y position' and 'X position' component, I'd have expected to be able to monitor the readings for each but it seems we cannot....

 

I tried unplugging the MLPS to see what would happen:

- When unplugged, I get P082E ('Y' position circuit low) and P082B ('x' position circuit low). These don't cause the engine management light to come on.

- The readings for Transmission gear position and the Reverse gear switch both continue to work fine with the MLPS sensor unplugged - suggesting that both of those readings are taken from the reverse gear switch (separate sensor on the gearbox).

I am intrigued as to how @Phantom76 is monitoring his MLPS readings - I still have no way of monitoring the MLPS...

 

 

im convinced it was in the transmissions gear engaged but mine is now showing error when i try to read it personally i think im chasing my tail putting parts in when i need to face facts and think of the wiring loom, i took the throttle body off and did notice that when i ficked the butterfly to the closed position it stayed there gave the unit a tap and it flipped back open, so ill have to replace that anyway also noticed a humming noise coming from the unit when the ignition is off like the motor is trying to do something like open the butterfly further than its ment to i donno the ***** any more lol 

14 hours ago, ssmith93 said:

I tried unplugging the MLPS to see what would happen:

- When unplugged, I get P082E ('Y' position circuit low) and P082B ('x' position circuit low). These don't cause the engine management light to come on.

- The readings for Transmission gear position and the Reverse gear switch both continue to work fine with the MLPS sensor unplugged - suggesting that both of those readings are taken from the reverse gear switch (separate sensor on the gearbox).

I am intrigued as to how @Phantom76 is monitoring his MLPS readings - I still have no way of monitoring the MLPS...

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Phantom76 said:

im convinced it was in the transmissions gear engaged but mine is now showing error when i try to read it personally i think im chasing my tail putting parts in when i need to face facts and think of the wiring loom, i took the throttle body off and did notice that when i ficked the butterfly to the closed position it stayed there gave the unit a tap and it flipped back open, so ill have to replace that anyway also noticed a humming noise coming from the unit when the ignition is off like the motor is trying to do something like open the butterfly further than its ment to i donno the ***** any more lol 

 

What is the loom code on yours?

probably a stupid question but is there any Muppet proof tutorials on how to use forscan, also any data sheets that show the values required for each test ??

thanks lads and i appreciate the help with this throttle did solve it  

engine dieseling dont mind the rattle i have the dpf heat shield off  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5IxlnrM9vg

buzzing noise with ignition on then off, you can hear another clicking noise as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TiiyQTlns

@TomsFocus@unofix wounder if anyone might be good enough to review my live data to see if anything sticks out 
running from idle to operating temp 

 

https://we.tl/t-RWCpItJlE1

1 hour ago, Phantom76 said:

@TomsFocus@unofix wounder if anyone might be good enough to review my live data to see if anything sticks out 
running from idle to operating temp 

 

https://we.tl/t-RWCpItJlE1

I can't see that link or view the videos above unfortunately.

6 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

I can't see that link or view the videos above unfortunately.

sry @TomsFocus both vids should be available now 

if you click on the link it should give you an option to download the .fsi file to open in forscan 

Ah, I don't have Forscan on this laptop I'm afraid.  Haven't been a 'Ford Owner' for a while now.  (Don't tell anyone lol)

That engine run on is often caused by the fuel pressure regulator.  But the TB should also be closing to prevent the shudder when it does finally shut off.

The part you're pointing to is the fuel pressure sensor for the low pressure side (as opposed to the rail sensor for the high pressure side).  I think that whine may be coming from the EGR just below it though.  The rhythmic sucking noise at the end is the EGR solenoid self test.

Not sure we're any further forward with this unfortunately.  Though I must admit I was assuming it to be lower mileage (kilometerage?).  At that mileage you are likely to see less common faults occurring.

1 hour ago, Phantom76 said:

both vids should be available now 

Hi, I still can't get the videos, but not to worry. Now that you have posted the FORScan screen shots above I'm sure that will answer a few questions. Sadly this not within my area of expertise, but @Tizer has a lot of knowledge regarding live data, perhaps he may have some ideas.

1 minute ago, unofix said:

Hi, I still can't get the videos, but not to worry. Now that you have posted the FORScan screen shots above I'm sure that will answer a few questions. Sadly this not within my area of expertise, but @Tizer has a lot of knowledge regarding live data, perhaps he may have some ideas.

with a bit of luck he will drop by and take a look

The actual measured MAF value of 9 g/s at Idle is reasonable but the Desired of 51 g/s is complete nonsense.

The MAP is correct though, so the amount of air coming in and the amount being fed to the Engine is correct, I don't understand why the Desired value is so high unless it is a mistake with FORScan.

Looking at an earlier post, Tom's reply was correct, the Throttle Valve should completely close when you switch the Engine off. You should be able to monitor it with FORScan.

thanks @Tizer for jumping in on this so basically your saying with engine and ignition off the butterfly should be fully closed ??  if i remember correctly when i looked it was fully open i have another look now and report back also what pid should i be looking at to monitor it ??

15 minutes ago, Tizer said:

The actual measured MAF value of 9 g/s at Idle is reasonable but the Desired of 51 g/s is complete nonsense.

The MAP is correct though, so the amount of air coming in and the amount being fed to the Engine is correct, I don't understand why the Desired value is so high unless it is a mistake with FORScan.

Looking at an earlier post, Tom's reply was correct, the Throttle Valve should completely close when you switch the Engine off. You should be able to monitor it with FORScan.