Over recent years there has been alot of chatter about going to a 'cashless' society Something I would absolutely hate. I'm a huge fan of cash as I often find that when paying for services, like a plumber, electrician, painter etc, I can usually negotiate a discount for cash. I'm a big fan too that the government can't always get their grubby hands on it as they have an atrocious record of spending our money.

Recent mass power outages in Spain & Portugal also displayed the failing that without electricity, all your phones/cards//watches payment simply don't work so the economy ground to a halt.No one could pay for anything, and cash became king.

Anyone here still a fan of the cashless society?

12 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Anyone here still a fan of the cashless society?

Well maybe, if we could go back to the barter system. I'll swap you two chickens for a tank of diesel  👍

I guess the VAT on that would be a couple of eggs 🤣

Cash is expensive and risky to handle, store, and transport.

The 'cash is king' chant is typically associated with right wing conspiracy nutjobs.

Just now, rwb said:

The 'cash is king' chant is typically associated with right wing conspiracy nutjobs.

Oh, that would be me then 🤣

2 minutes ago, rwb said:

The 'cash is king' chant is typically associated with right wing conspiracy nutjobs.

So says the extreme left wing, woke crack pots.

Not bad going, only been a member of the forum for 6 minutes and already nailed your Marxist colours to the mast 🙁

29 minutes ago, rwb said:

Cash is expensive and risky to handle, store, and transport.

The 'cash is king' chant is typically associated with right wing conspiracy nutjobs.

Oh dear.

And the leftists are totally sane too, of course

I'm right wing, but prefer to pay by debit card.

When people ask me to pay by cash instead of card I always ask for a 20% discount for cash as I know you won't be paying VAT

Hope that helps.

 

5 minutes ago, DaveT70 said:

When people ask me to pay by cash instead of card I always ask for a 20% discount for cash as I know you won't be paying VAT

20%? Now, that's a bit overboard, you should consider asking for 10% as don't forget, "Cash is expensive and risky to handle, store, and transport..." someone has to pay for it 🤣

Just now, StephenFord said:

20%? Now, that's a bit overboard, you should consider asking for 10% as don't forget, "Cash is expensive and risky to handle, store, and transport..." someone has to pay for it 🤣

I shall take your comment on board comrade👍

I haven't used cash for over half a decade.  Wouldn't make any difference to me if it did go.  I can't access the majority of stuff I need in the current society anyway.  Should society be adapting to the needs of the few?  Obviously that's for another discussion.

Those paper slips in your wallet aren't actually worth anything though.  They're only a 'promise' if you read the wording...as if people don't break promises!?  Obviously only useful in the UK as well.  I would prefer cash if it was made of gold & silver again...holds better value and can be used around the world.

Interesting thing to note about opinions though.  Over here my opinions are generally considered left wing and disagreed with.  On the other site I use my opinions are often considered right wing and disagreed with.  Which probably means I'm pretty close to the centre and disliked by both sides!  

5 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Cash is expensive and risky to handle, store, and transport.

He might have a point 🤣

 

I've got cash in my wallet due to my mother paying me upfront for there Saturday newspaper I pay by Google pay . Got a collection of £20 notes now since Xmas. All my spending is by card of one colour or another. 

Guy at work ork tried handing me cash for duty free cigarettes recently. I declined and got him to bank transfer. 

1 hour ago, StephenFord said:

Over recent years there has been alot of chatter about going to a 'cashless' society Something I would absolutely hate. I'm a huge fan of cash as I often find that when paying for services, like a plumber, electrician, painter etc, I can usually negotiate a discount for cash. I'm a big fan too that the government can't always get their grubby hands on it as they have an atrocious record of spending our money.

Recent mass power outages in Spain & Portugal also displayed the failing that without electricity, all your phones/cards//watches payment simply don't work so the economy ground to a halt. No one could pay for anything, and cash became king.

Anyone here still a fan of the cashless society?

I am not a fan of the cashless society at all. Quite apart from anything else who wants ones bank statement full of spammy transactions for 65p? I never pay with a card for anything under £10,

As events in Spain and Portugal earlier this week shows, cash should never be discontinued! People stranded with no way to pay for anything, food, water, taxi/bus fares etc etc 

 

Having said that, I don't really practice what I preach, and very rarely carry cash 🤔 relying on cards for purchases. 

11 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

I haven't used cash for over half a decade.  Wouldn't make any difference to me if it did go.  I can't access the majority of stuff I need in the current society anyway.  Should society be adapting to the needs of the few?  Obviously that's for another discussion.

Those paper slips in your wallet aren't actually worth anything though.  They're only a 'promise' if you read the wording...as if people don't break promises!?  Obviously only useful in the UK as well.  I would prefer cash if it was made of gold & silver again...holds better value and can be used around the world.

Interesting thing to note about opinions though.  Over here my opinions are generally considered left wing and disagreed with.  On the other site I use my opinions are often considered right wing and disagreed with.  Which probably means I'm pretty close to the centre and disliked by both sides!  

"adapting to the needs of the few"

Cash is making a comeback, an d a lot of people still use it for small transactions, certainly a much bigger number than the number of trans people they want us to bend over backwards for, or indeed the number of people who were significantly at risk from Covid (yet they shut down society for them....). 

 

BTW, do you really pay for stuff that costs, say, 50p electronically ? ! ?=
If so, how do you ever find anything on your bank statement !

I can't find it just now but there's a story goes about regarding someone paying a bill with a £50 note and the receiver taking the note and paying off another bill etc etc 

2 minutes ago, Turvey said:

People stranded with no way to pay for anything, food, water, taxi/bus fares etc etc

They couldn't even use the contactless pay system to charge up their EV's 🤣

4 minutes ago, Justin Smith said:

BTW, do you really pay for stuff that costs, say, 50p electronically ? ! ?=
If so, how do you ever find anything on your bank statement !

I can't even get to a shop anymore...largely thanks to Boomers moving all of our shops 'out of town' and killing off the small local shops that I could've walked to.

Though even when I could get to a shop, I certainly wouldn't waste the time & fuel going for one 50p item.  What can you even buy 50p nowadays?

3 minutes ago, unofix said:

They couldn't even use the contactless pay system to charge up their EV's 🤣

Bonus then 👍🤣 mind you, petrol pumps wouldn't work either .

8 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

I can't even get to a shop anymore...largely thanks to Boomers moving all of our shops 'out of town' and killing off the small local shops that I could've walked to.

Though even when I could get to a shop, I certainly wouldn't waste the time & fuel going for one 50p item.  What can you even buy 50p nowadays?

We get people coming into my shop wanting to buy a £1 plug with card, I tell them there's a 50p surcharge for transactions under £5. I generally start telling them why that is justified * but nobody has ever needed telling they just say add it on no problem.

* It's to do with bank charges, we don't put many transactions through our card machine and most of what we do are £50 to £100 (or considerably more sometimes) phoned through mail orders. If we don't get one of them on the day a customer pays us £1 with a card we then have to pay 35p for that to be paid it to our account. Plus I don't really want £1 transactions on my bank statement....

"CASH IS KING" but no one accepts £50 notes🤔

2 minutes ago, Justin Smith said:

We get people coming into my shop wanting to buy a £1 plug with card, I tell them there's a 50p surcharge for transactions under £5. I generally start telling them why that is justified * but nobody has ever needed telling they just say add it on no problem.

* It's to do with bank charges, we don't many transactions through our card machine and most of what we do are £50 to £100 phone mail orders. If we don't get one of them on the day a customer pays us £1 with a card we have to pay 35p for that to be paid it to our account. Plus I don't really want £1 transactions on my bank statement....

Yes, I do understand the card fees for retailers.  I pay a few trusted retailers online by bank transfer instead of card for that reason.

I'm guessing you have a High Street shop that people are likely to be walking past regularly?  I still can't imagine getting in the car and driving somewhere to spend a pound or less.  I'd wait until I needed a few items from the same place.

2 minutes ago, DaveT70 said:

"CASH IS KING" but no one accepts £50 notes🤔

I used to have to ring the bell for the supervisor to come & check £50's when I worked in a supermarket.  Can still remember the fear of ringing the bell while they were on lunch break!  

5 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

I used to have to ring the bell for the supervisor to come & check £50's when I worked in a supermarket.  Can still remember the fear of ringing the bell while they were on lunch break!  

Odd, all the shops I ever managed had UV lights at all till points with staff trained on how to tell a genuine note form fake. If you can't trust your staff to take money, you shouldn't employ them...

1 minute ago, StephenFord said:

Odd, all the shops I ever managed had UV lights at all till points with staff trained on how to tell a genuine note form fake. If you can't trust your staff to take money, you shouldn't employ them...

That sounds very fancy!  We did have a yellow pen that was meant to go black on a fake note.  But I wasn't trusted to rely on that alone.

Cashless society means only one thing ! Big brother can keep tabs on you and take all and any taxes it feels like when its digital. Thats where the power is, i know cards are handy but think of the bigger picture....Gov knowing every damn thing about what you have and have not. KEEP CASH !