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Hi All,

I'm a french guy, looking for some guidance/advice,

I have a 2013 S MAX 1.6 Ecoboost which has started encountering shuddering issues on charge/high acceleration. 

No check engine light, I have replaced Coils, Sparkplugs, used injection cleaner by fuel. There's no coolant and oil leaks, levels don't move from the max.

Changed turbo solenoid control valve and hoses, checked air injection hose's too, cleaned throttle body and intercooler. Replaced all air sensors.

I have checked the ECU, there's no DTC code and mode 6 OBD2 scan reveals  all tests ok.

Wondering what can do this "misfire like" effect, only when pressing hard the pedal.

When low accelerating no problems to reach 6500 rpm and no weird turbo noise.

Could it be the lambda  even if tests are ok, or maybe carbon clogged valves but idle is ok and not shaky at 750rpm ?

Heard about high pressure fuel pump but power is ok ?

Thanks for your help if anyone has an idea.

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  • First entry in this topic courtesy tunne1rat: As some of you are now aware, the biggest problem with the s-max is the poxy alarm! The problem is caused by water getting into the alarm sounder module

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Morning All,

Been driving my 2015 S-Max MKII 2.0T EcoBoost for the last 7 days and looking for some pointers and advice.

I'm used to auto's but this auto seems almost slow to react to my foot going down, is this just a characteristic i'll need to get used too?

Being the 240PS engine i imagined a slightly more potent reaction, could it just be size/weight of S-Max dulls the power?

I'm seeing white smoke on start up, the coolant level seems static, oil level reads okay and there is no milky residue in/on the oil. I've got the car booked in with a friendly mechanic for a once over to give me peace of mind.. I'm an ex company car driver so keen to keep my wallet/money in my own pocket.

I have downloaded FORScan and bought the OBD reader and used this, this morning. Is there any codes i should look out for?

Thanks all for any advice.

David.

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Hi there, I have a 66 plate SMax Titatanium sport turbo petrol automatic which has just hit 40,000 miles.  I have recently felt the car is a little more shaky through the seat both when accelerating and braking.  It is up to date in terms of its annual service but I was led to believe by my local ford dealer that the gearbox needs a service at 40,000.  I rang another ford dealer who said they could do the work cheaper but when they looked at the car they said model doesn't have a filter so it cant be done.  As I had conflicting advice I rang a gearbox specialist who said he can change the oil on the external filter but that he wouldn't bother as the transmission is notoriously bad on these models and therefore an oil change wouldn't likely have any impact on whether it fails sooner rather than later (and he predicter sooner and advised I get rid of the car!)  Apparently it can be between 2 and 4K when the gearbox goes.

I am wondering whether or not anyone knows whether there are gearbox issues with this model as I am trying to ascertain whether to sell now whilst it is still working, or whether to get the oil changed or do nothing at all!  I know very little about cars so if anyone can offer any advice it would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

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I have a 2010 s-max I've noticed there is water in the boot where spare would be I've looked at the rear of the back lights can't seem to find where the is coming from any ideas much appreciated 

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Morning all,

 So I had engine malfunction pop up on car and within seconds the car cut out and won't restart, the fuel pump fuse had blown so had a bloke look told me maffsensor and cam shaft so they have been changed aswell as fuel filter and still no look iv also notice that the car stereo won't turn on I'm at a total loss now any ideas 

2 hours ago, sas24 said:

 So I had engine malfunction pop up on car and within seconds the car cut out and won't restart, the fuel pump fuse had blown so had a bloke look told me maffsensor and cam shaft so they have been changed aswell as fuel filter and still no look iv also notice that the car stereo won't turn on I'm at a total loss now any ideas 

Any ideas ?

Yes replace 'bloke' with 'guy' who knows his a5se from his elbow. Or replace car.

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On 1/30/2023 at 10:52 AM, Robert S-Max said:

I have a 2010 s-max I've noticed there is water in the boot where spare would be I've looked at the rear of the back lights can't seem to find where the is coming from any ideas much appreciated 

Bit of a update took it to a body repair shop I worked for he opened the door put his knee on the frame and pulled the top of the door so it would be tighter did the same to all doors and no water in boot

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Hi, I have a petrol Smax, and the fuel doesn't seem to be getting to the engine. Pump works fine, so I'm assuming fuel filter, but can't find it. Does anyone know where it lives? I also can't put fuel in the tank without using the fuel nozzle that came with the car. There is nowhere for the air in the tank to go, and so fuel spills down the side of the car. At the moment, I have a £25 Grand ornament! I also can't find the carbon filter, even though they are supposed to be "never need replacing", this may be blocked, although I have no idea how to get a new one, as they are not sold anywhere. Thanks in advance

Could you please update your profile ? It's showing a Mondeo 1993.

From your post it would seem the car your problem is with is an S-Max but you don't say what year or which exact engine, so it's going to be difficult for anyone to answer your questions.

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On 1/30/2023 at 10:52 AM, Robert S-Max said:

I have a 2010 s-max I've noticed there is water in the boot where spare would be I've looked at the rear of the back lights can't seem to find where the is coming from any ideas much appreciated 

Hello, I'm new with S Max too so I would like add this too as an SOS. I think everything is wrong with my 2010. The dash shows engine check and  battery low. Pick on acceleration has a little jerk, stereo lcd lights come on and that's it. It's blank and doesn't play. Heeeeeelp

3 hours ago, William Boss said:

and  battery low.

Start by charging the battery for 12 hours. Then see what problems remain.

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On 1/30/2023 at 10:52 AM, Robert S-Max said:

I have a 2010 s-max I've noticed there is water in the boot where spare would be I've looked at the rear of the back lights can't seem to find where the is coming from any ideas much appreciated 

 

On 4/8/2023 at 1:44 AM, Robert S-Max said:

Bit of a update took it to a body repair shop I worked for he opened the door put his knee on the frame and pulled the top of the door so it would be tighter did the same to all doors and no water in boot

Hi robert , did you have any further problems after this  ? thanks

Yes water is still getting in all I think I can do is replace all seals and hope for the best

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I started getting P244C errors (Exhaust Temperature Too Low for Particulate Filter Regeneration) on S-Max 2.0 TDCi 2012.  Checked with OBD DPF sooth was around 85%. Temp sensors look good (EGT11, CATEMP), pressure is constant. A bit of high rev driving it seems cleaning process was taking place and DPF sooth was lowered to 24% but after two weeks error got back. Car doesn't feel like it would have any issues. Anyone has any suggestions? Is it possible to disassemble DPF and do some manual cleaning?

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It it probably either a Vaporiser fault or maybe a previous owner has removed part of the DPF.

There is plenty of information on YouTube about diagnosing Vaporiser faults on the Ford 2.0 Engine.

The DPF Temperature should be around 500C when a Regeneration is taking place.  

On 9/13/2024 at 9:35 PM, Tizer said:

It it probably either a Vaporiser fault or maybe a previous owner has removed part of the DPF.

There is plenty of information on YouTube about diagnosing Vaporiser faults on the Ford 2.0 Engine.

The DPF Temperature should be around 500C when a Regeneration is taking place.  

Hi, I have car for many years now and it behaved normally until now. I can get DPF to regen and it reaches 450-644C when doing regen - soot drops after that. but I have to drive it to high revs for some time to do it. As it is doing regen after reaching the temp I think vaporiser is still working. So I'm thining either vaporiser is partially blocked and this is the reason that it has difficulty reaching needed temperature to do a regeneration or the ceramic inside DPF is cracked and this is the reason why it has problems desired temperatures to do regeneration.

Will first do a visual inspection and try to clean vaporiser if this will not work will need to get DPF to a specialized company dealing with restorations and cleaning to have it cleaned and checked for cracks.

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On 1/30/2023 at 10:52 AM, Robert S-Max said:

I have a 2010 s-max I've noticed there is water in the boot where spare would be I've looked at the rear of the back lights can't seem to find where the is coming from any ideas much appreciated 

On mine it were the roof to side panel welds, visible when you open the trunk: they will crack. It caused my alarm to go off on rainy days, as the water would descend inside the C pillar, through the horn terminal and shunt it.

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Not where it is located FORD S MAX 2.0 DIESEL 2016 FUEL PUMP CONTROL MODULE UNIT can you please help me 

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Hi,

 

I have had my S-Max for 4 years. I intermittently get a 12v Charging System Fault. The battery light will stay on for a few minutes then go off again. It has happened a few times and it can be months and months in-between occurring. I've checked the battery, connections and wiring. My local mechanic has checked the voltage pulling and it's fine. Any help and guidance gratefully appreciated.

 

Thanks.

Possible problem with the smart charge plug on the alternator. Check it is fully seated and that there is no damage or corrosion to the wires.

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. Is this what I'm looking for.

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1 minute ago, Ian Kershaw said:

Is this what I'm looking for.

It certainly is.

Unplug it and have a good look at the connections. Check for any signs of water damage/corrosion. Check the wire as it enters the back of the connector, they often suffer insulation damage.

Just  spotted the greenish signs of corrosion on one of the photos

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Hi all,

Just picked up a 2013 1.6 tdci SMax yesterday. Have taken it for about a 70mile trip there and back and now I have this pretty substantial leak. 

Here's a link to a video of it:

https://imgur.com/a/xuOZDPF

Any ideas? Do you think i should be shot of the car Or should I try and get the garage to fix it and carry on?

Thank you

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