Supagard Applied Over Ag Resin Polish Over Puregard

[graham1979]

PLEASE DONT POST SLAGGING OF PAINT SEALANT KITS, SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE GOOD OTHER PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE A WASTE OF MONEY, EACH TO THEIR OWN!

Hello Guys,

OK, when i bought the car from ford direct the dealer caught me in a moment of weakness and I have Pureguard applied, thought it would be a reasonable investment as my 14 year old micra still gleams when cleaned and that had it applied. I have a big boxer dog and know that on my last fiesta zetec s, although he did not go in the car (his hairs got on clothes etc), the hairs are impossible to get out. The car was treated with the fabric protector inside and the paint sealant stuff on the outside.

about a month ago i scratched my new fiesta while cleaning it with a brush (i normally use microfibre mitts) and had the scratch removed at the local bodyshop. i had bought some SUPAGARD stuff off eBay as i wanted to reapply the car interior stuff again. Different brand to pureguard etc I know but it was only work a few quid. In the pack from eBay i got TWO paint sealant sponges, the garage applied one of these for me when they buffed the scratch out. They took a "Micron" of the top of the bonnet and the scratch went, they did open and use the Supagard sponge because they gave me half of it back. Yet despite using the supergard the water does not seem to run off smoothly

ANYWAYS

As I am off school i decided to wash the car today and polished the bonnet it with Autoglym Super Resin, spent a while doing it and the car the bonnet looked like new. I then decided to open the second bag of Supagard Sponge Sealant and applied it over the top of the AG Polish. The water now streams of the bonnet when i hosed it about 15 minutes ago.

Is the Augoglym polish sealed in under the supaguard?

I am tempted to buy a few more sponges from eBay, clean and polish the car with AG and then apply the supagard over the top, would this be worthwhile? (the sponges are only a few quid and although i am off work now i just dont have the time to clean to this level.

REMEMBER

The bonnet has Supagard

The rest of the car has Puregard

Thanks for reading this whole post, Graham1979

[Jedilard]

Yes the polish is sealed under the supaguard. It's similar to Autogylm resin which actually states you need to apply it onto a polished .

Of course the serious 'detailing' guys here will probably burn you at the stake and use your ashes to mix with carnauba wax to make some ultimate polish.

However the rest of us will agree that your idea is sound. I've done something similar and had good results, however using supaguard does not mean you don't have to polish your car in the future.

[AntonyJ]

One sponge of SupaGard should be enough to do the whole car, but it needs redoing periodically (every 6 or 12 months).

The basic process should be:

Clean (including claying if needed to remove contaminant particles)

Correct (remove swirls and other defects)

Polish (to get a smooth surface)

Protect (either a sealant or a wax)

The exact products you use can be endlessly debated and there is some rubbish out there. There's also a lot of products that aren't worth what's charged for them, but that can be subjective. And some last longer than others before needing retreatment. IMHO The most important thing is the quality of application rather than the product itself.

[graham1979]

thank you both for your quick replies,

IMHO The most important thing is the quality of application rather than the product itself.

exactly what i was thinking, the plank who put it on for the dealership might have done it a million times but he had left white bits of the glaze on and prob had a hundred cars to do!

my intention is now to do the car bit by bit, the roof and boot hatch are next, follwed by each of the sides. i even put some of the supagard i had on the alloys, it smells and looks just like the wheel sealer.

[DanGull]

Your idea is fine - except I would suggest that the Supaguard is entirely an unnecessary part of it. Your idea is far superior to the actual Supaguard routine.

One of the best user friendly sealants out there is Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection, I would suggest that long term it will work out far more economical than the supaguard sponges - and do just as good if not a better job. If the Halfords 342 on, then take the chance and stock up on it. I apply it through a spray head rather than the instructed way.

And by the way - I don't think anyone here or anyone else for that matter will slag off the sealants themselves - what people object to is the fact that Supaguard and the like are sold by dealers for £300...

[btmaldon]

I have used Supaguard numerous times and it does need re-applying after around 9 months. Diamond Bright seems to last longer and I feel gave better results.

I bought a Supaguard kit recently from eBay for £8.99. I used the paint sealant on my wifes SportKA. The interior and Alloy sprays, I am saving for the new car I am hoping to pick up tomorrow. I bought some two stage stuff for the paint called Permaseal, which I want to put on before I take the car anywhere. Not sure how good it is, but we will find out if the 10 year protection claim is up to much.

[Gazjs]

As Dan says, its the dealers who apply it wrongly that give it a bad name. At a guess, that is why the water wasn't sheeting off until you applied it yourself.

[graham1979]

DANGULL,

sorry to bother you but how do you mean you apply the autoglym extra sealant through a sprayed? How exactly do actually apply the sealant?

Many thanks

Graham1979

Ps spent a few hours polishing car with super resin then used the last of the supagard pads I had.

[Gazjs]

DANGULL,

sorry to bother you but how do you mean you apply the autoglym extra sealant through a sprayed? How exactly do actually apply the sealant?

Many thanks

Graham1979

Ps spent a few hours polishing car with super resin then used the last of the supagard pads I had.

The EGP is a liquid in a bottle with a small hold in the lid to use an applicator to soak a bit of the product up and apply. If you put the EGP into a spray head bottle then you can just spray onto a panel. Easier to apply this way.

[DanGull]

Exactly as Gaz says. The EGP does separate, so be sure to shake it. It also clogs some sprayheads, so whenever I finish I put the sprayhead on another bottle full of water and run water through the spray head.