999cameron Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yesterday I got my first car, a 53 Ford Fusion 2 1.4 Petrol. Unfortunately it only came with one key, and I would prefer to have a spare available. How would I go about retrieving/buying/having a new one made? Any help would be appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 First, welcome to the Forum. Buy one of these and call a local Auto Locksmith. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-FORD-MONDEO-FOCUS-FIESTA-PUMA-COUGAR-KA-REMOTE-KEY-FOB-/290839987476?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43b76a0514 The Locksmith will cut and programme your key in about 10 minutes and for far less than a main dealer will charge you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999cameron Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Hi Stoney, Thanks for the introduction to the forum. Thanks for the help/information! What about the central locking, will they be able to sort that bit out? Cheers, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 They can programme the key to work the central locking and the immobiliser at the same time, they just plug a terminal into the cars data (OBD) port and it's done in about 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999cameron Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Great! Thanks for the information, you've been a great help :) Now to find an Auto Locksmith. Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Be aware that Locksmiths still won't be cheap but i guarantee they'll charge a lot less than a Dealer will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999cameron Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yeah, do you have any idea around about how much it will cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 TBH you're best ringing for quites from a few places as the prices can vary wildly. I'm lucky that i have a friend in the South West that does keys for me and any referrals i give out at a decent rate. He cut and coded a flip key for me IIRC for £30 but that was mates rates. I think he charges £70 for regular jobs but obviously of no use to you in Sussex. Definitely get quotes and work from there mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999cameron Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Okay, at least it has given me a rough idea, thanks pal :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Welcome anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertymz Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I've been seeing eBay sellers offering to cut the key before shipping it to you. If I do that, and receive my key, can I program it to the Fusion using my two existing keys (thereby ensuring I have a spare fob)? Or will I still need an auto locksmith to do something else with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999cameron Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 I've been seeing ebay sellers offering to cut the key before shipping it to you. If I do that, and receive my key, can I program it to the Fusion using my two existing keys (thereby ensuring I have a spare fob)? Or will I still need an auto locksmith to do something else with it? How can they cut a key for you before shipping it? It would have to fit your car, and they wouldn't know the shape needed until they stuck a mould on your existing key or tailored one to the lock on your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertymz Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Allegedly, you can send them a picture or your key code to get this done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If it's a Tibbe key - You can read the code off the key by eye.- Some info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertymz Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Yes, that's it. :) So once I get my cut key... Can I fully program it using my two keys? Or do I always need an auto locksmith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 There was a date after which the ability to self programme keys was removed but not totally sure for your car tbh. It was an ability on the MK1/1.5 Focus but not on the MK2 onwards so there is a possibility that you'll need an auto locksmith with an IDS pad. Best thing to do is try yourself first and go from there. A locksmith could do it in about 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999cameron Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 ui Yes, that's it. :) So once I get my cut key... Can I fully program it using my two keys? Or do I always need an auto locksmith? Please could you point me in the direction of somebody who would tailor cut the key? Thanks Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If you want to try programming your own new key. Try this first- PATS II (Immobiliser) System Programming This needs the two original already programmed keys to access programming mode. Insert the first already programmed key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Insert the second already programmed key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Key programming mode is now activated and you have ten seconds to: Insert the unprogrammed new key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Allow 10 seconds to pass for the system to exit programming mode. Central Locking Programming Instructions: Insert the ignition key and turn from position II (Ignition) to position 0 (All off) and back four times within three seconds. Remove the ignition key. The locking control system is now in "learn mode" for the next 20 seconds and the red warning system LED should stay on continuously to indicate this. During the 20 seconds press one of the transmitter buttons. The remotes signal and code number is learned by the locking module and is indicated by flashing the warning system LED. Wait until learn mode times out (20 seconds) or switch the ignition back to ON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 ui Please could you point me in the direction of somebody who would tailor cut the key? Thanks Cam There are eBay sellers that will cut a Tibbe from a code, read as per my earlier instructions and send them the information- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-KEY-CUT-/271134049479?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Safety_Security&hash=item3f20d944c7 Or some high street cutters can do it for you too. (Some Timpsons may). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertymz Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 If you want to try programming your own new key. Try this first- PATS II (Immobiliser) System Programming This needs the two original already programmed keys to access programming mode. Insert the first already programmed key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Insert the second already programmed key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Key programming mode is now activated and you have ten seconds to: Insert the unprogrammed new key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Allow 10 seconds to pass for the system to exit programming mode. Central Locking Programming Instructions: Insert the ignition key and turn from position II (Ignition) to position 0 (All off) and back four times within three seconds. Remove the ignition key. The locking control system is now in "learn mode" for the next 20 seconds and the red warning system LED should stay on continuously to indicate this. During the 20 seconds press one of the transmitter buttons. The remotes signal and code number is learned by the locking module and is indicated by flashing the warning system LED. Wait until learn mode times out (20 seconds) or switch the ignition back to ON. I found this on the manual :) Is this all I need to program the new (cut) key - or is there another step I require an auto locksmith for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 As i said before, Ford did remove the ability at some point on the Focus (definitely on the MK2 and coincided with them going from a Tibbe key to the lazer type flat blade key). At the end of the day it's worth a go, either it will work or it won't, no harm in trying first. Better to see if you can programme your extra key for free first as i'm pretty sure you'd kick yourself if you called out a locksmith and they did exactly what I posted and charged you £--- for it. But if it works for you then it really is that simple, no smoke and mirrors or sleight of hand ;) BTW, what's curious to me is that my Parents have a 07 plate Fusion 3 and they still have tibbe keys on it long after all other Fords have changed to lazer keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionfan2 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Can I just get a basic spare key without programming it - that I can use in the door to unlock the car, boot and in the ignition? Just as a back up if I lose the only programmed/remote key? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 You can use a non remote key but will still need a programmed transponder in it or else you can't start the car. Additionally, if you have the factory fitted alarm then when opening the locks manually you will need to put a transponder key into the ignition to deactivate it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionfan2 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Got a non-remote 2nd key for the car. £45 from Herne Bay Autolocks http://www.autolockshernebay.co.uk/ Quick and friendly service - recommended. Starts and locks the car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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