michaelthimas86 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I have a 1999 ford focus cl petrol, the car will not start, not even usingjump leads with the power from another car. I can hear a clicking noise comingfrom under the bonnet, and i can also hear a noise coming from the glove boxnear the fuses. The clicking under the bonnet seems to be coming from where therubber belts are. I can see the cogs turning a little, for example, if the cogwas a clock, it is moving 1 hour distance per click. I fitted a stereo, 2 daysago, other than fitting the stereo; i have not done anything to it. Edit. I forgot to add this, maybe this will help. The speedo, does somethingreally strange, the needles on the revs and mph go to maximum stay there for a splitsecond then drop back down to zero. Another edit. This actually happened last night about 10pm, my friend come and give me ajump and it worked, last night there was no clicking noises, just dimmedlights. Today when i tried to start it all of the above happened. So it did successfullyjump start last night. What ive done. Ive checked the battery with a multireader, its reading just 12.1v Ive checked the fuel pump cut off switch, its pushed down Ive removed the new stereo i fitted and put the old one back in Ive took the connectors off the battery cleaned them and put them back on Ive visually checked the fuses behind the glove box, and the one under thebonnet, I can only check the ones that i can see, those big box type fuses, ido not know how to check them. Im not sure what else i can do. I’ve checked all the usual things. Anyideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 12.1 volts is a little low for the battery Should be between 12.4 & 12.7volts ideally :). What I reckon could have happened, is when you've wired he stereo the Accessory 12v & constant 12v have been reversed and drained the battery (even though the stereo says it should be correct). As for the big box fuses it sounds like you mean relays? Do they click? Have you tried charging the battery overnight off the car? Also, have you checked that there is enough deionised water (or possibly acid) in the battery? When the car starts, try testing the voltage with a multimeter. Should be around 13.5 - 14.5volts on idle if your alternator is functioning properly Sorry if it's the radio draining it.. As I told you how to wire it; but I went from the diagram written on the radio & the colours on my car loom & half of a diagram I found online. When you reconnect the radio, try switching the yellow and red wires (so red goes to yellow & yellow to red) The clicking noises could quite possibly be the starter trying to turn but there's not enough current for it. My car did the same when I left it garaged for a month with a 2 farad capacitor wired in http://m.wikihow.com/Find-a-Parasitic-Battery-Drain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelthimas86 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Well this morning when it didn’t start, my friend wasn’t around, so i wentto the bargain store and got a battery charger, jump leads and a multi readerall for £23 so it wasn’t a huge cost. So I tried jumping it, that didn’t work. Then I removed the battery, wiredit up to the charger, and as soon as I plugged it in, the green light come onsaying it was full, so i unplugged it a few times, eventually the green lightwent, off so I left it on charge for 6 hours. Then I put the battery back in the car, and still didn’t work. I’m thinking of taking the battery out of my dad’s car in the morning andtrying that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelthimas86 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Its too dark to do that test now, but that drain test looks good i will try that first thing in the morning in the light, and hopefully it is just the battery, i just hope its something not serious and expensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelthimas86 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yes those relay things behind the glove box seem to be making a machine gun noise, and the clicking under the bonnet is muchlouder, but the loud noise is definitely not coming from the fuse box under the bonnet, the loud noise is coming somewhere from behind the engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Loud clicking from behind the engine sounds like it could well be the starter, possibly just the battery being flat, If it's a cheaper battery charger then it may not have the "umph" to revive the battery from flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelthimas86 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 My dads battery is in good working order i will switch them around in the morning and try that, if it starts, i will then put the new stereo back in, and check for that drain test. If all fails, it looks like its garage job., Its horrible not having a car, i had to ride a peddlle bike to my GF tonight, im not sure where you are but here in the UK its cold and slippy out there, I am praying i get it fixed in the morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 My dads battery is in good working order i will switch them around in the morning and try that, if it starts, i will then put the new stereo back in, and check for that drain test. If all fails, it looks like its garage job., Its horrible not having a car, i had to ride a peddlle bike to my GF tonight, im not sure where you are but here in the UK its cold and slippy out there, I am praying i get it fixed in the morning. Hope it's just the battery mate! It really does sound like it. It could even be possible that the jump leads you bought aren't high enough gauge to carry enough current to successfully jump it without a lot of charge already in the battery & Yeah I'm in east Yorkshire.. Near the sea! So I've got the lovely rough seas along with the snow! Haha, I work about 40 feet away from the beach too :(. That's dedication though.. Riding a push bike at night in this weather! If it doesn't start with your dad's battery, try posting a video of what you see/hear? Upload to YouTube "unlisted" then share the links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelthimas86 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 I will do, I will do the video in the morning, but hopefully it doesnt come to that. Oh yes, i see your area near your stats on the left. Well fingers crossed all going well i will back out driving in the morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I will do, I will do the video in the morning, but hopefully it doesnt come to that. Oh yes, i see your area near your stats on the left. Well fingers crossed all going well i will back out driving in the morning. Okay mate! Out of interest, have you tried bumping it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelthimas86 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 Its working....... YESSSSS...... I put my dad’s battery in and it startedfirst time..... I’m just charging my battery now, then im going to try and findthe drain. Even if i have to live with the old stereo it’s much better thanriding a bike. No i didn’t try bumping it, i completely forgot about that, so the plan isto leave my old battery on charge until the green light comes on. I do not want to post links here in case I get banned but the batterycharger is called “streetwize 12v 4amp charger” If I find the drain, I’m going to try and fully charge my old battery. I also have a 12v solar trickle charger, so when the green light comes onsaying its full, I’m going to use the solar panel charger for a day or 2 to tryand get it completely full. If all fails, Halfords new battery, still much better than going to the garage,every time I go to the garage it’s a week’s wage at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeMk1 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Did you measure the battery voltage while the engine was running to check if it was charging? Also the battery could still have faulty cells even if its showing fully charged, meaning it wont hold charge, so really your battery needs checking too with a load tester. Just charging the battery and refitting it wont solve your problem if the alternator is goosed :) Should be around 13.5v - 14.5v if the alternator is charging ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelthimas86 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 ADEMK1 - Yea when i put my dad’s battery in this morning, i measuredwhile it was running to test the alternator; it was fluctuating but consistentlyover 14v, I can’t do a load tester with my multi reader it’s just a cheap onefrom the bargain store. If the battery does not start the car in the morning, I’moff to Halfords to buy a new one, they have one for £42 which isn’t too bad, I’mhappy to pay that to get back on the road, I just want to find this possibledrain first before buying a new one and ruining that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 ADEMK1 - Yea when i put my dad’s battery in this morning, i measured while it was running to test the alternator; it was fluctuating but consistently over 14v, I can’t do a load tester with my multi reader it’s just a cheap one from the bargain store. If the battery does not start the car in the morning, I’m off to Halfords to buy a new one, they have one for £42 which isn’t too bad, I’m happy to pay that to get back on the road, I just want to find this possible drain first before buying a new one and ruining that too. The drain will more than likely be the new radio mate. A lot of radios come with connectors so you can swap the yellow and red wires around incase the wiring's slightly different which I think yours could be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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