Guy Heaton Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Has anyone else had their door seals come off? On my driver's door the inner one is coming off and it's not located in a groove, it's just glued on, which is RUBBISH. Time to break out the araldite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Sounds like the same problem as on the Mk3/3.5. You'd have thought they would have fixed that on the new model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comares2001 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 They just use a double-sided tape that can fail. Best fix on Mk3 was to use a 2 pack adhesive sparingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On the MK3 the weatherstrips coming loose was basically caused by a composite reinforcement wire that is vulcanised inside the rubber material of the weatherstrips. During the manufacturing proces of the weatherstrips this reinforcement wire is stretched. During time the reinforcement wires shrinks and puts a significant amount of tension on the weatherstrips. This amount of tension causes the weatherstrips to come loose at the ends or in the corners. On the MK3 the solution for this problem is to cut the reinforcement wires at a few particular locations to eliminate the tension on the wire. When cutting the wire you actually hear it snap. After cutting the reinforcement wire the weatherstrips can be glued back into place. Ford prescribes a 2K adhesive for glueing the weatherstrips. Just glueing the weatherstrips back without cutting the reinforcement wire is only a temporary solution. This usually causes the weatherstrip to come loose at a different location. On the MK3 this problem was solved Years ago by changing the manufacturing process. I would not be surprised if the MK4 weatherstrips suffer from the exact same problem. The build quality of most Ford models these days seems to be worse than it was approximately 10 Years ago. Reducing costs seems to be more important than build quality. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I walk past 3 or 4 Mk3/3.5's locally that all have the weather strips hanging off of at least one door...winds me up no end but the owners either don't notice or don't care! I'm yet to see a Mk4 with them hanging off but will be looking for it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 Not what you expect on a 14 month old car. I wonder if the hot weather has loosened the glue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 Having a closer look I am wondering about drilling a very small self-tapping screw in, with perhaps a thin washer to stop it ripping through the rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastfordninja Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Mine done this on every door on my mk3 so I super glued them on held them there for a few seconds until stuck job done that was 2 year ago all good 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pragmatix Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Yep got the same on my Cmax, I've just used some very strong double sided tape it's lasted longer than the factory stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Warranty! Get the dealer to replace it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLen Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, iantt said: Warranty! Get the dealer to replace it. I'm not sure what year a MK4 is but I do know that ford only warranty all door seals for the first 12 Months, Which in my opinion is extremely short 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 The whole car in the UK is 3 yrs ,60k miles. Know in Ireland you have different warranty terms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isetta Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 The first post mentions araldite. If I was going it I would probably try the type of glue that you spread on both surfaces then leave for about 15 minutes and the push together. Uhu is that type of glue , years ago I had something similar in a red can with screw on lid that I applied with a brush.that was very good but I can’t recall name. But eu regs etc on solvents have probably reduced the effectiveness of this stuff like with paint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboChris Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, isetta said: years ago I had something similar in a red can with screw on lid that I applied with a brush.that was very good but I can’t recall name. Evostick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 49 minutes ago, isetta said: The first post mentions araldite. If I was going it I would probably try the type of glue that you spread on both surfaces then leave for about 15 minutes and the push together. Uhu is that type of glue , years ago I had something similar in a red can with screw on lid that I applied with a brush.that was very good but I can’t recall name. But eu regs etc on solvents have probably reduced the effectiveness of this stuff like with paint You might be thinking of Vulcanising glue. Tyre places use it to stick plug patches on punctured tyres. Brush on and leave to dry. Not to be confused with a Vulcan who got himself out of sticky situations on startrek. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin#95 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 I used flexible adhesive on my door trim. Puraflex 40 is very good and comes in black or white from toolstation. Araldite is good for a year or so but might break free on one surface because it does not flex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 22 hours ago, Guy Heaton said: I am wondering about drilling a very small self-tapping screw in, with perhaps a thin washer to stop it ripping through the rubber Don't!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 I've got a few specialist glues, anaerobic adhesives. Good point on it needs to be flexible. I should let Ford do it I suppose under warranty but it's the hassle at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 16 hours ago, BigLen said: I'm not sure what year a MK4 is but I do know that ford only warranty all door seals for the first 12 Months, Which in my opinion is extremely short 14 months old.... Typical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Guy Heaton said: 14 months old.... Typical I just checked the warranty terms tables and warranty exclusions and no mention of door seals being excuded. Obviously normal wear and tear items are excluded. It used to be the case back in 2014 and before alot of stuff was excluded after 12 months . Edit, done another check and they do suffer the same as earlier MK3/3.5 . The MK4 has been added to the same tsb so your dealer should be aware of symptoms,cause and fix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 Ah cheers for that. I'll give them a bell tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, iantt said: Edit, done another check and they do suffer the same as earlier MK3/3.5 . The MK4 has been added to the same tsb so your dealer should be aware of symptoms,cause and fix. Surely someone in the design team looks at previous model TSBs before putting a new model into production? 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 hours ago, iantt said: The MK4 has been added to the same tsb So basically despite the years of experience with the Mk3 and Mk3.5 they've still gone ahead and perpetuated the same mistake. What a bunch of jerks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 Exactly. How hard or costly would it really have been to tongue and groove it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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