shaun.t Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Hi all, new to the site so apologies if i get it wrong. I have a 62 mondeo diesel estate with 135k, great car and goes like a dream normally. Couple of weeks ago i had the information (i)light up on the dash. Car was still running good but a couple of days later the orange engine light came on. Phoned the garage and booked it in last Thursday, drove home and the car kept going in and out of limp mode. The garage had my car (for 4 days)and started diagnosing, did a regen and i was told it points to a sensor by the CAT. They changed this and charged me £280 but told me they could not reset the engine light.....but to drive for a few days to see if it resets as no faults were showing up on their tester. Anyway drove 22 miles to work this morning and just before i arrived limp mode cut in again. Left the car for a couple of hours and the limp mode has gone but the engine light is still on.....i am at a loss as the garage cant seem to see what the fault is. From what i can see there are a number of topics relating to this....any deas? the car has been regularly serviced and does run like a new one normally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezwez Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Hi Welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicam49 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Hi! Is it Ford main dealer you went to? I ask 'cos a lot of generic code readers don't pick up Ford codes, but if it WAS a main dealer then I would have thought they'd have used the correct sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, nicam49 said: Hi! Is it Ford main dealer you went to? I ask 'cos a lot of generic code readers don't pick up Ford codes, but if it WAS a main dealer then I would have thought they'd have used the correct sort. No it was a local garage i have used for years without any problems.....they have two different code readers and both gave the same response. Its annoying as the £280 i've just spent has not made any difference at all. Drove the car home last night (22 miles from where i work) and the limp mode came on within 2 miles of me starting. Got home and turned the engine off....waited for a coupe of minutes and started again, the "I" warning light had gone off, engine light still on and no limp mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 £280 for a sensor? Sure it wasn't the vaporizer that was replaced? As Nicam says, needs Ford specific diags on it. You can do it yourself with Forscan, doesnt need to be a Ford dealer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 Hi, not sure what was replaced but they apparently had trouble trying to get it out...all i know is it was by the CAT. ...just had a look at the Forscan and looks pretty good but unsure about having a go myself to be honest.....my missus wants to get rid of the car but it does everything i need it to do so not giving up yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicam49 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 That's mississes (?) for you! You can rest assured that as far as mississes + cars go you are not alone in forum land! For under £20 you can get a dependable reader which will pay for itself time after time. Tunnelrat are in UK and you can email them with any Q?s. AFAIK there's 2 different sorts, one that plugs into a USB port on a Windows laptop, and one that connects to your android phone on bluetooth, I think that one you need to buy a Forscan licence for (not expensive tho') Maybe someone with experience of this can clarify/correct me. Once you've got a code reader we can give some driving instructions how to read the ecu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 Bit the bullet and ordered one of these units...garage had my car all day Friday and still nothing....still engine light and limp mode.....waste of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Plugged the unit in and it came up with error codes.....P246C,P2463,P246B and when I ran the engine it showed pdf soot ld at 228....from what I can see it all relates to a DPF user.....or am I missing domething? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicam49 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Well, some of those codes might be historic as there's no date stamp on them, so clear them and see which ones come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Will give it a try...wasn't sure how to do it today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frembrit Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Going by those codes, I would hope the garage changed the vaporiser unit as it was failing to carry out a dpf regen...but changing it alone won't fix it as they should have at least cleared the error codes so that the car knows to try a regen again. I would suggest, in forscan, clearing the codes as mentioned by Nick and then find the 'reset dpf learned values' option (I think it's called that) and run that too. Then just go for a drive and if you can get on to a free flowing A road. When I replaced my Vaporiser the car started a regen within 3 minutes of driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 I was told the vaporiser was changed and the codes reset....but I will give it a try. Is the soot level anything to worry about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 I was told the vaporiser was changed and the codes reset....but I will give it a try. Is the soot level anything to worry about?.......just done the reset.....all lights have gone off the dash and all seems OK....had a quick test drive and its running great again.....Will give it a long run in a bit to see if its cured.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frembrit Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Yes, soot levels should not be any higher than about 80%, I think that's roughly when it starts a regen. Go for your drive and if the EML doesn't come back on then it's most likely doing a regen, then check the soot levels again when you get home. I actually had my laptop in the passenger footwell so i could see the soot levels and exhaust temps, during the regen they go over 600oC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Aftera mile or so limp mode again......hasn't worked and doesn't seem to regen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frembrit Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 What error codes are you getting now? Have a look at my thread on Talkford HERE There are other threads there were others have had trouble getting it to regen after a vaporiser change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 P246B, P246C P2463......should I try a static regen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frembrit Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 yes, worth a go, reset everything again first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Will do, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Blimey this forced regen stinks and was a bit worried about the smoke under the car ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Did the regen and the car seems to be driving OK.....soot level has gone from 228 to 9......Will take it down the motorway tomorrow to see what happens......and no engine lights....let's hope its OK as I have the mot in two weeks....thanks for all the advice...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 Drove 21 miles to work this morning without any issues.....fingers crossed it has cured the issue.....thanks again for all the advice... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, shaun.t said: Drove 21 miles to work this morning without any issues.....fingers crossed it has cured the issue.....thanks again for all the advice... Hopefully it's sorted now then. Forscan is such an invaluable tool for any Ford owner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.t Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 I would definitely recommend it....came down the motorway this morning with a smile on my face.....may be a 2012 with 135k on the clock but when it runs well you can't beat it.....love my old ford.......😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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