Wino Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 There's already been two allergic reactions yesterday. Both NHS staff but non life threatening according to the BBC news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Wino said: There's already been two allergic reactions yesterday. Both NHS staff but non life threatening according to the BBC news. Apparently they both had significant histories of allergic reactions to the extent that they carry adrenaline pens. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizer Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: It's good to see the vaccination programme is well under way. Hope they update the official daily statistics to include vaccinations carried out each day, to give something more cheerful than the current daily figures for deaths, hospital admissions, people testing positive for the virus, etc!😃 I hope so too because I think the daily figures will go up again after this month for obvious reasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizer Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: Apparently they both had significant histories of allergic reactions to the extent that they carry adrenaline pens. Yes, the Tinfoil on the Head brigade have posted the Clickbait part of it on social media already instead of reading the whole article. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, Tizer said: I hope so too because I think the daily figures will go up again after this month for obvious reasons. Sadly, I think you might be right John.😒 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jace1969 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 What's the reason having to have a follow-up why not all in one go as it's that safe or is it 2 types. Also is there any figures out there who dies each week having Flu but they have had the Flue jab.??? I would say i would have it of course for myself but mainly for spreading it to other people as it can be a silent killer and what i mean by that is you could have it with no symptoms go by a person with problems/elderly etc and then it's a battle to get over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 There are a few jabs where you have to have 2 doses to get the full effect, it's not about safety. You can think of it like like switching on the ignition to prime the fuel pump before attempting to start the engine... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st line x 140 driver Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: There are a few jabs where you have to have 2 doses to get the full effect, it's not about safety. You can think of it like like switching on the ignition to prime the fuel pump before attempting to start the engine... FIRST JABS THE MICROCHIP FOR TRACK AND TRACE! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizer Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 42 minutes ago, jace1969 said: What's the reason having to have a follow-up why not all in one go as it's that safe or is it 2 types. That is normal for some vaccines. When I had to get a Rabies vaccination it was given in 3 dozes over a few weeks. The ONS never used to collate figures for Flu deaths but they did this year to counter the lies that were being spread about and I think it was about 500 odd. I doubt if they broke it down to people who had been vaccinated but you could ask them if you are concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: You can think of it like like switching on the ignition to prime the fuel pump before attempting to start the engine... Sounds as if the Oxford jab is very much like that. They discovered (by chance or accident depending who you believe) that it works best as a half dose to get the immune system going, followed by a full dose. I'm not that bothered how many doses are needed tbh, as long as: a) I get it asap b) It works!😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, TomsFocus said: There are a few jabs where you have to have 2 doses to get the full effect, it's not about safety. You can think of it like like switching on the ignition to prime the fuel pump before attempting to start the engine... Brings back nightmares of pressing the heater plugs down for 2 mins every morning to get the old Bedford to fire up ( Diesel) 😮 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st line x 140 driver Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: Sounds as if the Oxford jab is very much like that. They discovered (by chance or accident depending who you believe) that it works best as a half dose to get the immune system going, followed by a full dose. I'm not that bothered how many doses are needed tbh, as long as: a) I get it asap b) It works!😀 (c) if it doesn't work kiss your ***** good bye once upon a time students use to get paid for testing drugs now everyone seems to be guinea pigs. best thing is hands space face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comares2001 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, st line x 140 driver said: (c) if it doesn't work kiss your ***** good bye once upon a time students use to get paid for testing drugs now everyone seems to be guinea pigs. best thing is hands space face. It has to be tested on a representative sample of the population .Young students hardly fit the profile in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, st line x 140 driver said: best thing is hands space face. Lol I don't mind carrying on with hands and space anyway, but I'm not wearing a flippin' facemask for ever! I'll take my chances with the vaccine, thanks.😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st line x 140 driver Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Comares2001 said: It has to be tested on a representative sample of the population .Young students hardly fit the profile in any way. You don't have to be young to be a student. Still no indication for long term effects if any. There has been many vaccinations deemed safe that has caused damage years later with major law suits. You have to ask yourself do you feel lucky punk 😜 sorry dirty harry quote. Many people that have survived still have long term issues even without vaccination. Mine you its hard to recover from death so you have to decide which is worst of 2 evils and if you don't get vaccinated you may be banned from things without proof of having it. How long are you immune with vaccination covid 19 has been going on for a year now and has already mutated in to weak and strong - Lewis Hamilton must of had the weak version as hes already recovered and won the Abu Dhabi F1 GP - sorry thats tomorrow😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zain611 Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 Lol I'm suffering from something and sadly think it might be covid. Tuesday started to get aching joints and a fever then followed with a sore throat and blocked sinuses. Today fever went away a few days back and my throat is getting better. Just my sinuses have left me imbalanced. Just hoping if it is covid I don't get no serious symptoms like breathing difficulties or permanent lung damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLen Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 hours ago, jace1969 said: What's the reason having to have a follow-up why not all in one go as it's that safe or is it 2 types. I don't know the true answer for this, but one reason could be to ensure that a sufficient quantity of the vaccine remains inside the body, I know one ingredient in all of them is an highly expensive organic based cholesterol which could be the reason for the second round of the vaccine to ensure it amalgamates with the body's natural cholesterol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, BigLen said: I don't know the true answer for this, but one reason could be to ensure that a sufficient quantity of the vaccine remains inside the body, I know one ingredient in all of them is an highly expensive organic based cholesterol which could be the reason for the second round of the vaccine to ensure it amalgamates with the body's natural cholesterol. Good job I I got high cholesterol then 😂😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 hours ago, mokes said: I would not have it. Not proven to be safe, not proven to work 100%, comes with unknown risks, I don't trust the government, etc etc.... Watch out for those pesky 5G towers as well while you're at it. How does your foil hat look with your mask? 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st line x 140 driver Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, FiestaForever said: I think that this very same question needs to be set up in a poll type post. Aaaaaaaand No way would I be taking the vaccine or would I recommend it to any one. Most vaccines are cooked inside animal parts and actually give you a dose of what ever it is they are trying to treat, so no no no. its safe as long as: you are not pregnant suffer from allergies younger than 16 you are the 5% it won't work on live near a 5G tower😜 sounds fit for purpose not! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 hours ago, FiestaForever said: It's funny this post should be made, I was in iceland doing some shopping and while I was waiting, in the queue, to be served at the till, one of the local drug dealers came into the shop and started shouting and ranting about the vaccine. He bellowed out that the government had given the vaccine providers legal immunity from prosecution if any people got side effects from the vaccine. It was clear he had a dislike to the vaccine and touted the premise of the government trying to control every body, and then at the last point of the rant he then vociferated, loudly, the word, "freedom". What is not clear here is if he was just being jealous because he had not been granted the same legal immunity while peddling his drugs to the public. I think he had been living near to a 5g tower or been smokin too much herb, one or the two. Might be a different kettle of fish over here in the UK once your quarantine is over. Time will tell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 This topic has descended into a conspiracy theory rant. Please do not post information quoting unsubstantiated claims that are rife on the internet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Yes. Pretty much all vaccines have an inert or otherwise harmless form of the virus. This shows the pattern to your immune system which develops the antibodies. It is not a cure. A normal vaccine take years to produce because of funding and company politics. It will get lab tested then it might wait a year for the next departmental budget. Then it goes for the next test. And waits for budget for the next phase. Then it goes for approval and waits for the approval board to get the time and money All these delays have been removed for the covid vaccines but the process has remained the same. All these people who think it's a conspiracy. Why? Who gains? The Tories certainly haven't. What, they get the biggest landslide victory in decades and then think no, let's get everyone out of work and hating us? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erictcleric Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Guy Heaton said: All these people who think it's a conspiracy. Why? Who gains? The Tories certainly haven't. What, they get the biggest landslide victory in decades and then think no, let's get everyone out of work and hating us? Indeed, I was talking to my fellow Illuminati members, and we can't work out who benefits either. Also, if this was some nefarious plot, it'd be far easier just to put something in the water supply instead of relying on an injection that the exact people you want to target won't take. Roll on the vaccine, I say. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I rest my case... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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