gibbo1471 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Hi all My wife had our car yesterday and all was normal did an 80 mile round journey then went into our local shop came back out and the car was turning over but not starting then said engine malfunction. Called AA out and they said seems like the fuel pump. Like I said it is turning over but just does not fire plugged obd in no codes stored. Also it's not remote starting ie button Any common issues to be aware of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Any help please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Generic OBD or Forscan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Whatever they used it was fine all day that's the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Nothing was showing using torque on my Android phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, gibbo1471 said: Whatever they used it was fine all day that's the issue The issue is using generic scanners doesn't show Ford specific codes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Nothing was showing using torque on my Android phone if I get forscan will the pump show up also can you get the license still I remember they stopped it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Nothing was showing using torque on my Android phone if I get forscan will the pump show up also can you get the license still I remember they stopped it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizer Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, gibbo1471 said: Nothing was showing using torque on my Android phone if I get forscan will the pump show up also can you get the license still I remember they stopped it You don't need a License unless you want to do Configuration and Programming. There should be a PID for Fuel Rail Pressure at the Common Rail but probably not much for the Fuel Pump itself. The Wireless Adaptor that you are using for Torque may not work with FORScan or may not work well with it. You can try it with the free Laptop version to see before committing to the Phone version. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 If these have a tank pump, you may be able to manually run that using Forscan. The 1.6 TDCIs didn't but I think the 1.5s do? I've done it on my Golf to prime after a fuel filter change using VCDS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Where about would that be on the settings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Also anything I could try this end see if fuel us pumping etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 You need to use FORScan on a laptop with a good ELM327(modified) connection cable. Download FORScan (It's free for use on a laptop): https://forscan.org/download.html TunnelRat Electronics ELM327(modified): https://tunnelrat-electronics.fwscart.com/USB_Modified_with_switch_ELM327/p4541936_17045457.aspx There will be almost for sure a DTC stored relating to the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR800 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Take it to a garage! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 I have ordered a forscan will be delivered today I will post the codes if any later on if that's ok for more help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 Is there anything else I can try when using forscan to possibly diagnose this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 17 hours ago, gibbo1471 said: Where about would that be on the settings Called something like 'service Procedures' on Forscan. First check is a global scan to find all codes. Mainly interested in PCM codes but others can also be helpful. If no codes, second check is the service procedures, to see if there's something like 'fuel pump prime' or similar. If fuel pump does prime, or there is no tank pump on these, third check is to use live data to see how much fuel pressure there is in the fuel rail when cranking. Also, I think we covered this when you first bought the car, but there was a recall for a dodgy cam sprocket on the 1.5 TDCI. Did you ever check whether yours was part of the recall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 Do you need the extended license for that service procedure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, gibbo1471 said: Do you need the extended license for that service procedure I don't think so, but it's been a few years since I used Forscan myself now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 Which one I am looking at for the fuel pressure when crancking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 Which one I am looking at for the fuel pressure when crancking here are photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 FRPS should be a good one. If not then try FRP-A. Could also have the desired FRP open to compare. However, the 'error' next to PCM on your code list doesn't look good. BCM faults also point to a potential wiring fault. Doesn't look like a simple diagnosis unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 This is what the voltage is don't change during turning over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 This is what the voltage is don't change during turning over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo1471 Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 Also rescanned no faults present now but still no start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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