2 hours ago, south_bound said:

Couldn't agree more.  I had a fright the other day, thought I had applied the EHB with a pull of the switch, but car started moving forward when I got out.  Quickly stuck my head back in the car to pull the handbrake lever, which of course does not work when the ignition is off.  Then had to jump into the car, which was picking up speed by this time and slam on the foot brake.  Ended up halfway across the road and no damage done, but couldn't help thinking nostalgically back to having a great big lever to pull and would be sure it is applied properly!

For future reference it does work with the Ignition off but not in the same way. If the car is moving you need to keep the lever pulled up until the car stops.

1 hour ago, Tizer said:

For future reference it does work with the Ignition off but not in the same way. If the car is moving you need to keep the lever pulled up until the car stops.

Something new learned everyday !! 😀

I won't be able to try that on mine with it been automatic, but still a useful bit of info should I happen to be chasing a run away car anytime 👍

7 minutes ago, unofix said:

Something new learned everyday !! 😀

I won't be able to try that on mine with it been automatic, but still a useful bit of info should I happen to be chasing a run away car anytime 👍

Am I the only one that reads the Handbook - sigh 🙂

Seriously though it is designed that way so that it can be used in a controlled way for situations where the Brakes have failed and you need to bring the car to an emergency stop, just the same as you would do with a real Handbrake.

Someone might be in the outside lane of a Motorway when that happens and needs to lose some speed but not come to a complete halt for obvious reasons or not want to lock the rear wheels while going round a bend. 

26 minutes ago, Tizer said:

Someone might be in the outside lane of a Motorway when that happens and needs to lose some speed but not come to a complete halt for obvious reasons or not want to lock the rear wheels while going round a bend. 

You might find this youtube of interest. (It's in German with English Sub-Titles) 

 

That's all good to know - I'll tuck it away in my memory banks for next time I have to stop a runaway car.  I wonder if this is standard across different makes and models?  I seem to remember seeing a random Youtube video demonstrating that the electronic hand brake won't work if the car is moving above a certain speed to avoid locking up the wheels.  Wouldn't want to be holding the switch up and the car still moving, with me saying "but Tizer said it would stop if I do this"

On 10/30/2022 at 9:08 PM, unofix said:

If you are moving forward, either going up or down a hill then Auto Hold works just fine. The problem occurs if you have come to a complete stop on a hill and apply the EPB, like when you park.

When you get back in the car and start the engine, if you have to reverse up the hill (to get out of the parking space) then the EPB will not automatically release, (as it would do if you drove forward). Since my car is an automatic the option to engage reverse gear increase engine revs and start to bring the clutch up before releasing the EPB is just not something that can be done.

I have to select reverse while holding down the foot brake. As soon as reverse is selected then Auto Hold is inhibited and the car is held purely by the EPB, and my foot on the brake as well. This is where the real issue begins. I can't begin to reverse as EPB holds the car firm and does not release. I then have to press the release leaver and the parking brake comes off, as you would expect.

Now I'm in a position that I'm holding the car on the foot brake and have to try and get my foot off the brake over to the accelerator in a nano second. Unfortunately because the revs are too low the car starts to roll forward even though it's in reverse (I can't imagine that does the autobox much good).

Only solution that I can find is to use my left foot to hold the brake pedal, and my right foot on the accelerator. Start to build up some engine revs, press the EPB release, and then gently release the foot brake while applying more revs. Sounds simple but not quite so easy when you only have 18" between you and the car in front 🤣

If you got to the end of reading this then well done 👍😀

In 3 years I’ve never been in that situation! Involving the left foot on an automatic, with all due respect, is fkn nuts 🥜 

25 minutes ago, Alex.S said:

Involving the left foot on an automatic, with all due respect, is fkn nuts 🥜 

A friend of mine always uses his left foot to brake in an auto and is perfectly sane to the best of my knowledge.

In fairness, he was a well-known name on the club rallying scene for over 45 years and can do stuff with a car that I didn't think possible!

As a mere mortal, however, I always keep my left foot well out of the way in a two pedal car.