25 minutes ago, unofix said:

But are you sure ?  🤔

I'm starting to wonder now if I'm sure about anything:

And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself in another part of the world
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife
And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?"

And you may ask yourself, "How do I work this?"
And you may ask yourself, "Where is that large automobile?"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful house"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful wife"

You may ask yourself, "What is that beautiful house?"
You may ask yourself, "Where does that highway go to?"
And you may ask yourself, "Am I right, am I wrong?"
And you may say to yourself, "My God, what have I done?"

Extracts ©Talking Heads 

Also, slightly more seriously, are we getting too hung up on wet belt vs chain? I think @iantt confirmed on another thread that changing the oil pump belt at 10 years on the revised engine has a workshop time of just under 7 hours. And I guess while you're doing that it would be wise to change the chain, tensioner and oil pump so the total cost might not be much less than a wet belt change. And as we know, chains/tensioners are not immune to problems. Aaargh!!!!😀

Will everyone stop tagging me in your discussions. I'm thinking  it's something interesting to only find the same old ,same old. 🤣🤣

Hi guys just bought ford focus 1.0 st line does this have a chain or wet belt it's a 19 plate

On 2/1/2024 at 12:32 PM, unofix said:

The Focus Mk4 was released to the market in 2018 and therefore is referred to by that year. All Petrol Focus Mk4 engines have timing chains not a wet belt.

I have a strange feeling I've answered this question a few dozen times before 🤔

March 2019 Mk 4 Focus 125 Active (chain cam drive) - 46k miles - full Ford service history - oil pump drive belt (opdb) failed - formal claim for contribution to Ford UK by dealer on my behalf - dismissed as "request for contribution has not met their criteria for goodwill on age/mileage and nature of failure ie oil pump belt." Ford service schedule indicates opdb should be replaced at 10yr/144k miles so I do not understand why no contribution forthcoming for component failure in a car which has been service in full compliance with Ford schedule, by Ford franchised dealer and at approx 50% Ford's expectation of component lifespan. Ford UK clearly does not believe in customer service or doing 'the right thing' to support brand loyalty.

Just now, WABB said:

March 2019 Mk 4 Focus 125 Active (chain cam drive) - 46k miles - full Ford service history - oil pump drive belt (opdb) failed - formal claim for contribution to Ford UK by dealer on my behalf - dismissed as "request for contribution has not met their criteria for goodwill on age/mileage and nature of failure ie oil pump belt." Ford service schedule indicates opdb should be replaced at 10yr/144k miles so I do not understand why no contribution forthcoming for component failure in a car which has been service in full compliance with Ford schedule, by Ford franchised dealer and at approx 50% Ford's expectation of component lifespan. Ford UK clearly does not believe in customer service or doing 'the right thing' to support brand loyalty.

PS has anyone had received a contribution towards a failed oil pump drive belt in a Focus Mk4 car?

46 minutes ago, WABB said:

PS has anyone had received a contribution towards a failed oil pump drive belt in a Focus Mk4 car?

I have not read about many or maybe even any Oil Pump Belt failures on that Engine on this Forum. I believe there were some on American cars with Automatic Transmission.

Out of interest do you know what type of failure your one was i.e. stripped teeth, failed tensioner or something else and is your car a Manual or Auto?

Hi

i have 2019 automatic , 1 litre fiesta .

it has 30,000 miles on the clock , 5 years old , and have just been informed about the wet belt problem , it came up saying it needed oil , and the nightmare started , reading through things , it says 60,000 and 6 years plus , 

For your information , to all those fiesta drivers out there

2 hours ago, Karenr said:

reading through things , it says 60,000 and 6 years plus , 

For your information , to all those fiesta drivers out there

The official wetbelt change as stated by Ford UK is 150,000miles or 10 years which ever occurs first.

My own personal recommendation for a 1.0 Ecoboost engine would be 80,000miles or 8 years which ever occurs first. This reduces the risk of having the belt fail, but doesn't guarantee that it won't fail before those points.

2016 Ecoboost 140ps 998cc currently hit 99K when should the wet belt get done seen a few sites that say 120,000 with regular service 

2 hours ago, JoeHall1999 said:

2016 Ecoboost 140ps 998cc currently hit 99K when should the wet belt get done seen a few sites that say 120,000 with regular service 

Advice in the previous post to yours is as good as any:

On 10/4/2024 at 9:31 PM, unofix said:

The official wetbelt change as stated by Ford UK is 150,000miles or 10 years which ever occurs first.

My own personal recommendation for a 1.0 Ecoboost engine would be 80,000miles or 8 years which ever occurs first. This reduces the risk of having the belt fail, but doesn't guarantee that it won't fail before those points.

 

On 1/3/2024 at 8:36 PM, Neb_engineer said:

The official ford interval is part of the reason they go boom, 12k or yearly as said above is good, more frequent than that even better, Haynes recommend 6 months or 6k for oil changes on them.

 I  agree 6 months I change mine, best be safe, especially low mileage users as u get condensation in engine i only use Castrol magnetic

Hi All,

Does someone has just changed the oil wet belt in the revised Ecoboost engine?

In order to change the small oil wet belt the timing chain shall be disassembled as well, so at the end...it should be changed too, even if it should last for the full lifetime of the car.

If yes, how much does it cost?

Thanks

 

Ford Dealer = £1700

It was exactly what I was expecting, and the reason why I won't change it before changing car, maybe changing also car brand...

Thanks

 

1 hour ago, Ricci1972 said:

changing also car brand

Choose carefully, there are a lot of wet belts out there in other car brands.

2 hours ago, pcaouolte said:

Choose carefully, there are a lot of wet belts out there in other car brands.

👍 That said, if we assume  it would be prudent to change the belt and chain in a 2024 car at say 8 years, I doubt there'll be many (if any) wet belt engines available in Europe by 2032.

 

 

The issue of the wet belt is related to the petrol that goes into the oil, when the wet belt is into a diesel car even if the same happen no matter because the diesel and the oil are not aggressive for the belt material.

However I won't buy anymore diesel engine, so for sure I'll check the presence of a wet belt... And moreover I'll check the cost of the change...

21 minutes ago, Ricci1972 said:

The issue of the wet belt is related to the petrol that goes into the oil, when the wet belt is into a diesel car even if the same happen no matter because the diesel and the oil are not aggressive for the belt material.

However I won't buy anymore diesel engine, so for sure I'll check the presence of a wet belt... And moreover I'll check the cost of the change...

Haven't you seen how many 2.0 diesel Transit wetbelts are breaking?  They are so unreliable that Ford has had to reduce the belt change interval to every 6 years!

I was not aware of the issues on Transit, good point I'll take note for the future.

Thanks

Hi everyone I’ve just got a 2019 (69) plate focus, my dealer told me it was still the full wet belt engine, not just the oil pump wet belt, did ford still make some like this in 2019 or have I been misinformed?

9 hours ago, Dbe said:

Hi everyone I’ve just got a 2019 (69) plate focus, my dealer told me it was still the full wet belt engine, not just the oil pump wet belt, did ford still make some like this in 2019 or have I been misinformed?

Hi.  The year doesn't matter.  If it's a Mk4 Focus then it's definitely the chain engine.  Some Mk3's could have sat around unregistered until 2019, although that's very unlikely.

On the Fiesta, the wetbelt engine was still being fitted in 2019.  So maybe that's where the confusion comes from.

3 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

If it's a Mk4 Focus then it's definitely the chain engine. 

Unless of course it is a 2.0 EcoBlue engine which is sadly still a full wet belt system on the Focus Mk4

1 minute ago, unofix said:

Unless of course it is a 2.0 EcoBlue engine which is sadly still a full wet belt system on the Focus Mk4

Fair point.  Though I'd hope it's a 1.0 EcoBoost since that's literally in the title of the old thread they posted in. 🤔

Just now, TomsFocus said:

Though I'd hope it's a 1.0 EcoBoost since that's literally in the title of the old thread they posted in.

Very true, I was more thinking of potential future readers of the post who might not realise that it does not apply to all Mk4 Focus 👍