I don’t think it’s anything personal. They are just indifferent. They want your compliance too. Having the choice to not live in high density housing and eat bug protein meal. Electronic surveillance of your habits and movements with a corresponding social credit score that reflects their opinion of how you live are just the beginning. They have to get a handle on our ability to have freedom of movement and the freedom of speech to complain. Overall things in the world right now are just “peachy”, don’t you think? 

What do you gent’s think of the BBC and their efforts to push the EV and green energy agenda? 
My view of them, from a distance, is that they are delusional at least.

Their reputation should be considered almost nonexistent as far as honesty in reporting is concerned! They are absolutely saturated in hypocrisy.

Not to mention their history of foot dragging and coverup’s regarding the behavior of their own personnel, the sexual harassment’s, character assassinations and the latest accusations of pedophile behavior by presenter. Months go by as they investigate “ their own people” but they act immediately on anyone else. Sounds like the same strategy as NBC in America uses to look into the behavior of their high ranking people.

And we are all expected to make decisions on the important issues of our societies with the slanted and untrustworthy information that these perverts and propagandist hacks vomit onto the airwaves and internet?

I say no thanks.

1 hour ago, Scottman said:

What do you gent’s think of the BBC and their efforts to push the EV and green energy agenda?

 

Once you realise that the BBC owes it's existence to state permitted funding (at £159/TV license), it all becomes clear...

51 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Once you realise that the BBC owes it's existence to state permitted funding, it all becomes clear...

I'm not 100% sure about that. Their gloating over "partygate", frequent "remoaning", fairly negative coverage of attempts to tackle illegal migration, packing of Question Time  audiences with opposition  supporters, etc, etc often seems to me more like biting the hand that feeds them. It does seem sometimes that it they want to retain public funding, they're going a funny way about it.

I would hate to see a tame media that merely said or printed what they were told to, and firmly believe the role of the Beeb and other broadcasters includes holding the government (of whatever political leaning) to account, but it appears to me to be perhaps a little one sided at present.

We will have to see what happens if (but probably when) Max Headroom and his colleagues take up the reins!😀

26 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

I'm not 100% sure about that. Their gloating over "partygate", frequent "remoaning", fairly negative coverage of attempts to tackle illegal migration, packing of Question Time  audiences with opposition  supporters, etc, etc often seems to me more like biting the hand that feeds them. It does seem sometimes that it they want to retain public funding, they're going a funny way about it.

 

We live in an odd time with an extreme left wing BBC, and a similar left wing government (despite professing to be right of center!) They may 'seem' to be biting the hand that feeds them, but they are firmly ensconced in the opinion that that's what their (BBC) supporters want

 

27 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

We live in an odd time with an extreme left wing BBC, and a similar left wing government (despite professing to be right of center!) They

Yes, in many ways difficult to slip a cigarette** paper between them when you get down to it.

Even Laura Kuensberg would seem to agree:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66134332

 

**I tried to put f a g there but it wouldn't let me!

7 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

Even Laura Kuensberg would seem to agree:

 

Prior to her Brexit bias demonstrated as host on her 'BrexitCast' show, then pandemic bias, demonstrated by her persistent inane questioning on why we didn't lockdown sooner and harder, I quite liked her...

My taste for Burger Chef hamburgers was quite favorable until I learned that they may have been enhanced with the addition of Mexican horse meat.

I will never know if it was true or not. But, I just couldn’t consume them anymore. So I can understand why you feel that way about the news media.

I think everyone has been getting a lot of horse meat being passed off as genuine beef!

In America, the television news media is broadcast free of charge. I understand that the UK citizens are not only taxed but also have to pay a monthly subscription fee to get fed a steady stream of rubbish and swill!

that sounds like the first thing to put an end to! No one should be taxed and then billed to be lied to and propagandized. It’s disgraceful.

I was laughing at a piece on CNN a couple of months ago regarding how inexpensive and convenient it is to have an electric car, never once did it mention that the vehicle cost over fifty thousand usd!

16 hours ago, Scottman said:

In America, the television news media is broadcast free of charge.

You get commercial breaks on your news programs? I’m no huge fan of BBC but US television in general is (as we say) pish. Reruns of Seinfeld from 20 years ago, Frazier etc etc. I end up watching PBS cause watching their begging bowl strategy is marginally better than main stream US television. 

13 minutes ago, Alex.S said:

You get commercial breaks on your news programs? I’m no huge fan of BBC but US television in general is (as we say) pish. Reruns of Seinfeld from 20 years ago, Frazier etc etc. I end up watching PBS cause watching their begging bowl strategy is marginally better than main stream US television. 

Sometimes I stream USA TV channels on my FireStick (LiveNetTV), just to hear their ads! I spent much time in America when I was younger, and it brings back happy memories, especially when local car dealers splash their sale prices on screen, just to remind me how much we in the UK have been ripped off for decades on buying a new car...

There car ads are quite amusing sometimes. Heard the same ones over and over while driving around in Florida. We all could repeat the ads word for word as they came on. 

It’s really a mixed bag over here. I can watch Fox and CNN simultaneously at my local coffee shop. Those generally are subscription. ABC, CBS, NBC are free over the air and I still feel that they have cheated me! Engaging car advertisements are few and far between now days. It’s all about the monthly payment and the Annual percentage rate. 
I was at a Ford dealership to buy a quart of transmission fluid for my next PM session this morning. They had a new Lighting F150 parked next to the service and parts entry, it has a price sticker of just over $ 100,000 usd. 
At those prices, they had better begin to offer a toilet and sink soon! Because people are going to have to live in those things!

6 minutes ago, Scottman said:

I was at a Ford dealership to buy a quart of transmission fluid for my next PM session this morning. They had a new Lighting F150 parked next to the service and parts entry, it has a price sticker of just over $ 100,000 usd.

Yes, but you can get a 2022 Ford Mustang for about $28,000 (£21,500)

You still can buy cheap cars, we can't LOL

 

Well, perhaps we can. But, that used Mustang won’t be a GT and definitely not a convertible. That $22,000 used Mustang is not going to be the one most of us would have ordered as new.

15 minutes ago, Scottman said:

That $22,000 used Mustang is not going to be the one most of us would have ordered as new.

I think you missed the point - A 2022 Ford Mustang for £21500 LOL We can only dream of such things here 🤣

Probably been posted already. For those who missed it… 

4 minutes ago, Alex.S said:

Probably been posted already. For those who missed it… 

 

Yep, but worth seeing again, LOL

 

That’s a sad picture. Demand for Fiesta didn’t die. It dropped off because of the pandemic and lockdown. Then Ford decided to limit the availability of it. Then they decided to end it. Now they ended the jobs for the people who build the car.

https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/policy/hydrogen-not-expected-to-play-any-role-in-heating-or-cars-while-blending-should-be-a-last-resort-irish-h2-strategy/2-1-1485604

 

38 minutes ago, iantt said:

https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/policy/hydrogen-not-expected-to-play-any-role-in-heating-or-cars-while-blending-should-be-a-last-resort-irish-h2-strategy/2-1-1485604

 

"The document states that hydrogen should therefore only be used in sectors where direct electrification “will not be feasible or cost-effective”.

Well, that rules out EVs then 🤣

Well the Irish would say that. 🤣🤣, I mean the article. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The “trick” that governments have been trying to pull on their people is to exponentially increase the cost of the the diesel and petrol vehicles and then sell us the notion that the EV is “cheaper”. 
That concept is not too far away from saying that a hotdog is the same thing as a ribeye steak. I have had both recently and it isn’t true.

 

All of the governmental agencies and NGO’s in most of the western world are moving forward as if they have a consensus on the move to a “carbon neutral economy” and the only thing left to do is implement it (on our backs). But the media refuses to ask some simple questions like “Has China and India signed on to participate in this plan?” 
The answer to that question is No, China and India (among many other significant nations)is not a participant in the zero emission plan.

The follow up on that response should be something like “Why then is the rest of the world economies cutting their own wrists to make the change, when the most serious polluters who account for upwards of seventy percent of the current output are committed to doing nothing?”.

I think everyone here will agree that gross pollution has to be dealt with. But, none of what is going on with the green revolution is addressing the root cause of the problem. 
If your home catches on fire, would you be satisfied with the fire brigade showing up on your street and then only spraying water on your neighbors homes? That is a good comparison of the actions that are happening with the renewable energy plan. I doesn’t address the real problems. 
I go on a bit, don’t I? It bothers me that the elites are really only using the idea of green energy, renewable power, etc to fleece us and expand their control. I like that EV’s are available. For some people they are perfect. But, I don’t want to subsidize them and then pay additional taxes and fees. Let the markets determine the speed of implementation.

10 minutes ago, Scottman said:

I like that EV’s are available. For some people they are perfect. But, I don’t want to subsidize them and then pay additional taxes and fees. Let the markets determine the speed of implementation.

100% 👍

14 minutes ago, Scottman said:

I go on a bit, don’t I?

Yep! But then we all do. I think there's some highly contagious verbosity virus on this thread and we've all caught it!😀