Crap mpg is a thing with Fords, my 2.0 diesel Mk3 does 40mpg on the motorway. 40! Absolutely shocking. Previous car (Audi A4) with 2.0Tdi of the same HP and age did 25% more mpg. 

I'm a semi-hypermiler, I rarely go above 60  ( I worked out the commute time difference between 60 and 70 and it was something like 90 seconds)  I do the anticipation thing a lot, I don't drive off the motorway and have to brake at the end of the slip road, I just lift my foot off and let it slow down.   I used to do a 15ish mile commute, and on the way home after night shift, I'd be disappointed if I'd used the brake pedal more than twice .

Start to drive slower, and notice how many cars rush to overtake you and then at the next lights are the car in front, you soon see racing around is pointless.

Another way to look at it is you've gone from 30 to 38 mpg so from 24p a mile to 19p a mile, 5000 mile a year and you've saved £300

1 hour ago, Mark-UK said:

I'm a semi-hypermiler, I rarely go above 60  ( I worked out the commute time difference between 60 and 70 and it was something like 90 seconds)  I do the anticipation thing a lot, I don't drive off the motorway and have to brake at the end of the slip road, I just lift my foot off and let it slow down.   I used to do a 15ish mile commute, and on the way home after night shift, I'd be disappointed if I'd used the brake pedal more than twice .

Start to drive slower, and notice how many cars rush to overtake you and then at the next lights are the car in front, you soon see racing around is pointless.

I'm the same my 14 mile commute doesn't take hardy any longer than before hypermiling. 86mpg is my best shown on trip computer. 

I know I've posted it before, but hypermiling in a 2003 1.5 diesel Micra  😁

 

2 hours ago, Mark-UK said:

Another way to look at it is you've gone from 30 to 38 mpg so from 24p a mile to 19p a mile, 5000 mile a year and you've saved £300

Hypermilling as sponsored by St. Greta 🤣    Does it work for airplanes ?

7 hours ago, unofix said:

Hypermilling as sponsored by St. Greta 🤣    Does it work for airplanes ?

Was just about to comment on that image but as I was doing so it didn't sound appropriate and had to delete it. 🤣🤣🤣

On 9/12/2022 at 9:43 PM, StephenFord said:

Though the overriding thing against diesel is that the government in the mid 90s proclaimed it as the fuel of the future, subsidised  new diesel car sales, and then when critical mass was reached, increased the fuel tax to make it more expensive than petrol.

Thank goodness they learned their lesson and haven't interfered since on what we drive..... oh, wait a minute 🤣

Oh the next round will be even worse,
At the same time they want everyone to switch to electric cars, they are switching to less efficient Green Energy production,
If we'd built more Nuclear Power Stations a decade ago we could easily change, but they 'Green Tax' us to build wind farms which aren't enough.
If there isn't a plentiful supply of Electric, there will be shortages and other issues where they can charge whatever they want,
Haven't they just said recently, with the energy price hikes it's barely cheaper to charge electric cars than to buy petrol.

Welcome to the future
https://www.energylivenews.com/2022/09/01/days-after-banning-petrol-cars-californians-urged-not-to-charge-evs/

9 hours ago, RAIDER32 said:

shortages and other issues 

We need to move back to the "energy chat" thread. But yes, I spotted an item the other day on a topic that seems to have received little attention.

In addition to scarcity of lithium, cobalt, etc for batteries, you also need literally thousands of miles of cabling and overhead conductor to hook up remote wind farms (particularly offshore) to the grid, and copper and aluminium are also finite resources.

41 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

We need to move back to the "energy chat" thread.

 

 

Seeing as Greta Thunberg doesn't fly anywhere, I'm not sure what the post about hypermilling and airplanes is all about.

I guess some people just don't like young women asking them to read up on the facts.

9 minutes ago, Mark-UK said:

I guess some people just don't like young women asking them to read up on the facts.

Greta starting 'protesting' at age 15 years old. At that age I wouldn't trust a teenager to decide on global policy of what toothpaste to use, never mind a global energy policy. Nothing to do with her being a woman, I'd despise a boy just as much. World leaders chose to hang their hat on her at it absolved them of responsibility themselves to make important decisions.

The debate on 'climate warming' is simply littered with errors. I do believe that climate is changing, I'm not stupid, however, I vehemently disagree with the way that many have chosen to tackle it.

China alone has approaching 2000 coal fired power stations, the UK has one. If the UK went to net zero tomorrow morning, that's the exact effect we would have on global warming, zero. Yet in out futile attempt to reach net zero, we are plunging ourselves into poverty, which is simply immoral.

When I look out the window and see it's raining, if I go out I put on a coat. I don't look at the sky and try and change the weather...

9 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

coal fired power stations, the UK has one. I

Three, actually (but not for much longer - West Burton, Ratcliffe, and Drax which is part coal, part biomass) but I take your point.😀

PS - doesn't Kilroot also burn a portion of coal, also?

5 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

PS - doesn't Kilroot also burn a portion of coal, also?

Just down the road from me! It's my understanding that what coal is still being used will be phased out next year, and it will be 100% gas, but I guess in the current circumstance anything could happen...

Thank goodness nobody listened or read the papers of 12 year old Albert Einstein or 17 year old Saul Kripke who was teaching at MIT by 19.

We just shouldn't trust young people.

1 minute ago, Mark-UK said:

We just shouldn't trust young people.

Absolutely, well said... 😁

I much rather trust Greta than the paid by the oil industry Truss, and the rest of the politicians  in the oil and coals back pocket.  At the end of the day Greta has only ever said read the science and then decide your policy.

 

Just don't look up

1 hour ago, Mark-UK said:

...At the end of the day Greta has only ever said read the science and then decide your policy.

Therein lies a whole can of worms. Many countries 'followed the science' during Covid, everyone resolving to use very different policies to deal with that 'science'.

Ronald Reagan (an old man) is quoted in expressing the 9 most scary words ever uttered, "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help..."

A recent example is that 'science' told Thersa May that UK gas storage facilities needed substantial remedial work to stay safe, so she decided on policy simply to shut them down, leaving us with no gas reserves!. Also, 12 years ago, Nick Clegg proudly boasts that he prevented the building of a nuclear power station, it would be online now.

'Reading' the science is not enough, you need to interpret it intelligently which unfortunately is very rare...

On 9/17/2022 at 8:23 AM, Eric Bloodaxe said:

We need to move back to the "energy chat" thread. 

Not happening 🤣🤣🤣🤣

2 hours ago, StephenFord said:

China alone has approaching 2000 coal fired power stations, the UK has one. If the UK went to net zero tomorrow morning, that's the exact effect we would have on global warming, zero. Yet in out futile attempt to reach net zero, we are plunging ourselves into poverty

Although I don't agree with all your views Stephen you are on the nail here. It makes no sense to shut down all our indiginous coal, oil and gas production and then have to rely on imports from the likes of Vladimir Putrid. I follow the heritage rail industry and they are having real problems sourcing suitable coal. They contribute tens, if not hundred, of millions to the economy, often in the most deprived areas, yet they're being sacrificed so that a few idiots can proudly claim the UK is 'carbon neutral'. Likewise our steel industry, which I consider to be a strategic asset, is having to source foreign coal because proposals to open new mines are being thrown out.

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Seeing as Greta Thunberg doesn't fly anywhere, I'm not sure what the post about hypermilling and airplanes is all about.

I guess some people just don't like young women asking them to read up on the facts.

 

What she did not tell us about when she did that trip to America was about the two flights that were needed for a change to the yacht crew. One to fly the new crew in and the other to fly the old crew out.

3 hours ago, mjt said:

...yet they're being sacrificed so that a few idiots can proudly claim the UK is 'carbon neutral'...

In the last 6 weeks there has been a definitive swing of public opinion from 'saving the planet', to being able to heat your home, and switching on your electric appliances. The new PM is even getting on board by suspending all sorts of 'green' taxes and levies. Being 'green' is all very well if you're rich, most of us aren't...

On 9/16/2022 at 2:28 PM, unofix said:

Hypermilling as sponsored by St. Greta 🤣    Does it work for airplanes ?

I just had a thought (stop laughing at the back!). If a commercial airliner takes off with 400 passengers anyway, would St Greta break her vow of environmentalist by utilising one of those spare empty seats, or is that like wondering why a vegetarian won't have a BigMac when McD serves 1000s of them everyday?? (I totally get her ethos of disliking 'private' jets)

5 hours ago, iantt said:

Not happening 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well, I did try. So looks like this is becoming the next "Energy Chat" thread - @StephenFord could you amend the title, please?😀😀