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Rattle/ticking noise + intermittent power loss

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Given your location it might be worth having a word with: https://northwestengines.co.uk/

Good reports from other members on here.



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  • When you fit the new one I would recommend you fit it to the pump first then attach the vacuum pipe to the new valve. The nipple on the valve is easy to break off.

  • It's a pretty crucial pipe unfortunately. The engine will run but the coolant won't be pressurised, it'll boil, and you'll be risking uneven head temps and potentially HGF. If you can tape

  • Are you sure the tensioner requires a T40. On my Focus it's a square and I just used a socket set extension bar and ratchet.

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1 hour ago, Fordy8888 said:

@TomsFocusI have a feeling I’ve smashed things and I was looking at getting a total new engine replacement but when I googled which engine it is I came across a post that you commented on but not sure what you mean as mines the 140ps and originally thought all 1l engines was the same apart from the new models  

“MOJB won't fit.  That's the later 1.0 engine with chain driven cam and the turbo at the back, totally different to yours.

YYJB is the 140ps version, so will be quite difficult to find.  They used a different headgasket to the 100/125ps engines for a higher compression ratio.  So really you do need to find another 140ps engine to replace it with.” 

Also I contacted the financial ombudsman who’s currently dealing with the car finance company and they said it will take up to march for me to even get an investigator on my case so I would either have to wait till then or bite the bullet and stick a new engine in for like 2k but then I still owe 8k on it and it’s a car with 108000m on it so it’s not even worth 2k anymore so I feel like it’s pointless but I’m In need of a car🤣

Previous me is still correct as far as I know. 🧐 :biggrin:

There were actually quite a few revisions of the wetbelt 1.0 EcoBoost through it's ~10 year life cycle.  Fitted to different models and at different power levels.  It's not unusual to find that some external parts need to be swapped from your old engine but obviously the headgasket is something can't be swapped easily or financially viably so that's the one that's most relevant here.

The best long term option you have is to fit a brand new engine, available from Pumaspeed at around £3k.  But you also mentioned the turbo may have failed again, and I'd recommend replacing the vacuum pump as well, as that's most likely damaged on your engine as well.  By that point you're over £3500...plus labour if not fitting yourself, and fluids etc.

Credit to you for taking this incredibly well (unless the smileys are overcompensating! :unsure: ) but I don't envy your position at all.  If you owned the car, I'd be saying strip & sell the decent parts, scrap the rest and buy something else.  But owing £8k finance on it makes the decision incredibly difficult.  

Fitting a used engine on these is a false economy as the wetbelts are probably degrading on most of the older ones now.  You may get lucky and find a newish rear ended car with a decent engine but it's still a risk I wouldn't feel comfortable taking with such large costs.

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7 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

Given your location it might be worth having a word with: https://northwestengines.co.uk/

Good reports from other members on here.

Yeah I will ring them tomorrow see what they say thanks

 

6 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

Previous me is still correct as far as I know. 🧐 :biggrin:

There were actually quite a few revisions of the wetbelt 1.0 EcoBoost through it's ~10 year life cycle.  Fitted to different models and at different power levels.  It's not unusual to find that some external parts need to be swapped from your old engine but obviously the headgasket is something can't be swapped easily or financially viably so that's the one that's most relevant here.

The best long term option you have is to fit a brand new engine, available from Pumaspeed at around £3k.  But you also mentioned the turbo may have failed again, and I'd recommend replacing the vacuum pump as well, as that's most likely damaged on your engine as well.  By that point you're over £3500...plus labour if not fitting yourself, and fluids etc.

Credit to you for taking this incredibly well (unless the smileys are overcompensating! :unsure: ) but I don't envy your position at all.  If you owned the car, I'd be saying strip & sell the decent parts, scrap the rest and buy something else.  But owing £8k finance on it makes the decision incredibly difficult.  

Fitting a used engine on these is a false economy as the wetbelts are probably degrading on most of the older ones now.  You may get lucky and find a newish rear ended car with a decent engine but it's still a risk I wouldn't feel comfortable taking with such large costs.

I probably wont fit it myself if I do decide to go down that route as I know I’d mess up somewhere, would be a great learning curve and project but not for the amount of money it could cost me if It went wrong somewhere but I don’t think it’s really worth all the trouble of fixing it to be fair my thoughts are that I replace the engine then something else will go wrong as it’s at that age now where it’s like a spiral of never ending problems (as you can tell 🤣) I think I’m just going to get a cheap run around and hopefully financial ombudsman come back with some good news in a few months time 🤞

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it's possible that the recirculation valve could be a contributing factor to the problems you're facing, especially if you've noticed a change in the BOV sound. However, it could also be a combination of factors or other issues.

I'd recommend having a professional mechanic or technician take a look at your car to diagnose and address the problem. They can perform a thorough inspection and provide a more accurate assessment of the situation. In the meantime, others in the forum may also chime in with their insights and experiences.

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The silicone diaphragm inside starts to deteriorate, leading to intermittent loss of vacuum to the turbo actuator. krnl download
hdstreamz.uno

 

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On 11/6/2023 at 9:49 AM, joyeyem said:

it's possible that the recirculation valve could be a contributing factor to the problems you're facing, especially if you've noticed a change in the BOV sound. However, it could also be a combination of factors or other issues.

I'd recommend having a professional mechanic or technician take a look at your car to diagnose and address the problem. They can perform a thorough inspection and provide a more accurate assessment of the situation. In the meantime, others in the forum may also chime in with their insights and experiences.

 

On 12/5/2023 at 10:45 AM, dermzcont said:

The silicone diaphragm inside starts to deteriorate, leading to intermittent loss of vacuum to the turbo actuator. krnl download
hdstreamz.uno

 

Yeah I’ve done all that but couldn’t find a part that wouldn’t deteriorate without changing the whole pump but now the timing belt has slipped @TomsFocus I was going to give the car back to my finance company and pay the rest but I might’ve decided against it as the other day I thought I would try and start it and to my surprise it fired up, but I ***** it down fast and I’m hoping there’s no internal damage so that it could be just a belt swap and timing doing 🤞

I'm not sure what's happened there then. :unsure: 

But given the scale of the issue, and the amount of time we know that it was run with a degrading belt and partially clogged oil pump, I would suggest that it's almost impossible not to have any internal damage.  I wouldn't be risking over a grand on a belt change on this particular car personally.  That's just my opinion though, you're obviously free to make your own decision.

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On 12/7/2023 at 10:39 AM, TomsFocus said:

I'm not sure what's happened there then. :unsure: 

But given the scale of the issue, and the amount of time we know that it was run with a degrading belt and partially clogged oil pump, I would suggest that it's almost impossible not to have any internal damage.  I wouldn't be risking over a grand on a belt change on this particular car personally.  That's just my opinion though, you're obviously free to make your own decision.


Yeah true I’m unsure which route to take as you say I’m risking paying over the grand for just the belt where as I could potentially pay a few hundred more and get a whole new engine for it 

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