In 2018, St Greta predicted confidentially that humanity would end in 2023. The grown ups amongst us simply wished to give the young child a lollipop and sit her at the back of the class.

However, amazingly, there was a circle of world leaders who loved the young girl and changed the course of world policy to go down the rabbit hole of, 'net zero', a direction that will bankrupt all healthy world economies.

Today, Ed Milliband (a grown up in age only) announced that, "tackling the climate and nature crisis is essential to protect the British way of life.

We’re taking bold action on climate and nature to make the British people better off today, and protect future generations to come...."

There are numerous initiatives he plans on implementing including a £770 Million spend to subsidise/promote EVs on a public that can see right through this failed technology. This includes a £25 Million grant to local councils so they can dig trenches in residential pavements to allow the 'safe' laying of charging cables form house to car. preventing a trip hazard. If you can see the many many flaws in this, feel free to list them here LOL

I despair how the UK public are being rinsed by this government (and the last one wasn't great either!). Maybe we should put that young girl back in charge again, she can hardly be any worse...

 

Digging trenches in footpaths for the safe use of charging cables can't be a worse way to waste money than our local council which has spent money on painting residential footpaths black. (They actually call it microsurfacing but I'm struggling to see it as any more than a thick coat of black paint).

The idea of a cable trench outside the front of a house for a charging cable might be ok if you don't have a fence or wall next to the pavement which the cable would need to dangle over. It also assumes that EV owners can get parked outside their own property. My sister has an EV and also a nice neighbour who makes every effort to park in the only roadside space that my sister's charging cable will reach. 

We're literally in the 3rd heatwave of this summer already and it's only July.  Water is already in short supply creating the need for hosepipe bans.  The climate is changing more quickly than we can adapt to it.  Or certainly more quickly than I can adapt to it.

Don't worry, the bloke who'll be in charge in 2029 is stopping it👍

Millipede is an idiot and so is Greta Dumburg

Nut Zero as it's affectionately known🤪

7 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

We're literally in the 3rd heatwave of this summer already and it's only July.  Water is already in short supply creating the need for hosepipe bans.  The climate is changing more quickly than we can adapt to it.  Or certainly more quickly than I can adapt to it.

It's just summer

When it's a mild summer there's no media hype, only when it's a nice summer.

The climate has been changing since day one, it once rained for 40 days and 40 nights according to the Bible and that was before cars were invented.

Seriously though I don't believe the 40 days thing but for someone to write that floods must have existed a long time before cars and coal and anything else that the greens blame everything on.

Just now, DaveT70 said:

It's just summer

When it's a mild summer there's no media hype, only when it's a nice summer.

Media hype?  I'm literally trapped upstairs in a ***** flat that's been 30c+ for months now.  If you like it hot then great, but it just exacerbates my health issues.  If they are going to just let it run then they should at least have the decency to bump off those of us who can't tolerate the extreme heat we get every summer now.

The Greens are just communists in a green tie

Just now, TomsFocus said:

Media hype?  I'm literally trapped upstairs in a ***** flat that's been 30c+ for months now.  If you like it hot then great, but it just exacerbates my health issues.  If they are going to just let it run then they should at least have the decency to bump off those of us who can't tolerate the extreme heat we get every summer now.

It's been that hot before, hotter in fact, way before cars and chimneys

Just now, DaveT70 said:

It's been that hot before, hotter in fact, way before cars and chimneys

Correct.  But fortunately I didn't have to endure that millions of years ago.  The point is not that the climate is changing, it's the speed at which it's changing.  Too quickly for any of us to adapt.

18 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

We're literally in the 3rd heatwave of this summer already and it's only July.  Water is already in short supply creating the need for hosepipe bans.  The climate is changing more quickly than we can adapt to it.  Or certainly more quickly than I can adapt to it.

Yep, what we need is widespread access to domestic air conditioning with cheap energy to run it!

1 minute ago, StephenFord said:

what we need is widespread access to domestic air conditioning with cheap energy to run it!

We should be able to pay to run aircon in the summer with the savings that we make by not heating our homes in the milder winters.

1 minute ago, TomsFocus said:

Correct.  But fortunately I didn't have to endure that millions of years ago.  The point is not that the climate is changing, it's the speed at which it's changing.  Too quickly for any of us to adapt.

It doesn't seem that fast to me, I remember 1976

It could be freezing next summer and it'll be all quiet on the milkfloat front.

I remember it snowing in May one year. Possibly 1977 in fact

The only thing heat comes from is the sun, something that's banned from thinking about, unless you know where to look, so I'd blame that, not Mr & Mrs Smith's 1969 Morris Minor

The sun will cause catastrophic global warming as it dies, that's a cert.

No amount of milk floats, communists and gluing yourself to the A27 will stop that.

2 minutes ago, DaveT70 said:

gluing yourself to the A27

It has always seemed a bit strange to me that the JSO people are happy to glue themselves to a surface which is largely an oil based product.

3 minutes ago, pcaouolte said:

It has always seemed a bit strange to me that the JSO people are happy to glue themselves to a surface..

It's always seemed strange to me that the authorities spend so much time/effort moving them. I'd just leave them where they glued themselves!

Wow, so many responses to this thread we broke the forum 😂

35 minutes ago, pcaouolte said:

It has always seemed a bit strange to me that the JSO people are happy to glue themselves to a surface which is largely an oil based product.

I rest my case

47 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Yep, what we need is widespread access to domestic air conditioning with cheap energy to run it!

There isn't space to fit AC units in ***** little UK flats.  AC takes up physically large amounts of space, so far no-one has come up with a proper small portable version because of the limitations within physics.  (Despite the adverts, none of the small units can actually cool a room).

Cheap energy comes from nuclear, which I am a big fan of.  I certainly don't believe we need to be burning any more coal.

"But the Chinese are burning coal"...yes, I'm aware of that, I obviously don't agree with them doing it either.

 

44 minutes ago, DaveT70 said:

It doesn't seem that fast to me, I remember 1976

It could be freezing next summer and it'll be all quiet on the milkfloat front.

I remember it snowing in May one year. Possibly 1977 in fact

The only thing heat comes from is the sun, something that's banned from thinking about, unless you know where to look, so I'd blame that, not Mr & Mrs Smith's 1969 Morris Minor

The sun will cause catastrophic global warming as it dies, that's a cert.

No amount of milk floats, communists and gluing yourself to the A27 will stop that.

In 1976 heatwaves were such a rarity that's all anyone talked about...now they're happening every other week.

Heat gets absorbed into the earth and also gets trapped in the atmosphere, it doesn't just 'come from the sun'.  It's still freezing cold at the top of Everest during daylight.  I can accept alternative opinions.  But I can't accept the complete denial of basic physics principles which can be easily and reliably proven.

For reference, I don't agree with the way that climate protesting has been done, and I certainly don't believe everyone having an EV is the solution.  We need fewer personal vehicles overall.  But then everyone will try to justify why they 'need' a personal car each, same as the way they keep having more and more kids when towns & cities are already overcrowded.  Personal responsibility seems to have been totally lost from the UK.  Or perhaps it was never here to start with, considering how the UK made it's wealth in the first place.  Can't say capitalism has done me any favours but I wouldn't say I'm a communist either.

 

For the sake of my stress levels, I think it's probably best that I leave this thread now.

11 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

...  But then everyone will try to justify why they 'need' a personal car each...

I am totally in favour of people having the choice whether to have a car or not, as long as they can afford it themselves. Last week it was announced that 50% of all new car sales in Northern Ireland were, 'motability' funded, that is simply not right (morally, not the statistic!) UK wide it's 20%

3 hours ago, Tizer said:

I don't believe the 40 days thing

I note a dangerous strand of heresy in this thread, let's remember that:

 

24 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

I note a dangerous strand of heresy in this thread, let's remember that:

Is it sad that I remember seeing this when it was very first broadcast! 🤣

2 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

There isn't space to fit AC units in ***** little UK flats.  AC takes up physically large amounts of space, so far no-one has come up with a proper small portable version because of the limitations within physics.  (Despite the adverts, none of the small units can actually cool a room).

Cheap energy comes from nuclear, which I am a big fan of.  I certainly don't believe we need to be burning any more coal.

"But the Chinese are burning coal"...yes, I'm aware of that, I obviously don't agree with them doing it either.

 

In 1976 heatwaves were such a rarity that's all anyone talked about...now they're happening every other week.

Heat gets absorbed into the earth and also gets trapped in the atmosphere, it doesn't just 'come from the sun'.  It's still freezing cold at the top of Everest during daylight.  I can accept alternative opinions.  But I can't accept the complete denial of basic physics principles which can be easily and reliably proven.

 

yep, as soon as somebody says "it's the sun" or "what about 1976" I disregard all of their further "opinions" on the subject. They are just the most "NPC" responses possible. It never seem to occur to them that scientists have in fact noted that the sun is in the sky and have in fact determined it's effect.

 

The biggest problem is the political problem. How governments are responding, enforcing laws and regulations that will immiserate the poor even further whilst simultaneously acheiving nothing.

Look around, the government can't even keep the streets and rivers clean...perfectly easy and achievable if they tried......but they think they can engineer the climate by Law....ffs

7 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Is it sad that I remember seeing this when it was very first broadcast! 🤣

We're both sad then!😀

1 minute ago, weesam said:

.....but they think they can engineer the climate by Law....ffs

I have always advocated this. It's like looking out the window and seeing it rain, before going out, most of us put on a coat or use an umbrella. Government seem to have the mindset of, 'how can I stop it raining'!

1 hour ago, StephenFord said:

Government seem to have the mindset of, 'how can I stop it raining'!

Or how can we make it dryer by imposing a tax. 

"Climate change" as a phrase seems to provoke extreme reactions from both sides. Perhaps government could promote the same outcome as "pollution reduction", I think that many people would like to live on a less polluted planet. It is also possible to save money whilst reducing pollution rather than governments trying to force unpopular change through taxation policy.