mrmetallica Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 does any one have a diagram of the tie bar/rod ? on mot last year they said had slight play in the ball joint so looking for a diagram so i know what t look for when i get under the car to replace it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 bump some one must know . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef123 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 the 'tie rod' goes between the steering rack and the 'tie or track rod end' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, stef123 said: the 'tie rod' goes between the steering rack and the 'tie or track rod end' i should have said its the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef123 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I'm not aware of any ball joints on the rear of the focus what exactly does the advisory on the mot say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Just about to say the same,you beat me to it Stef.Balljoint at the rear? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, stef123 said: I'm not aware of any ball joints on the rear of the focus what exactly does the advisory on the mot say? it says tie bar/rod has slight play in a ball joint offside rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef123 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 only thing i can think of is that they are referring to the anti roll bar which has drop links/ball joints on either end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 As far as I'm aware the tie bar is part of the hub carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, williamweb said: As far as I'm aware the tie bar is part of the hub carrier. its getting worse lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 The tie bar is fixed with a bush and bolts on the underside of the wheel arch.Correct me Stef if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, williamweb said: The tie bar is fixed with a bush and bolts on the underside of the wheel arch.Correct me Stef if I'm wrong. so fords dont know what they talking about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I don't know buddy,I'm just offering my understanding of what a tie bar is,for what it's worth,lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, williamweb said: I don't know buddy,I'm just offering my understanding of what a tie bar is,for what it's worth,lol. im not having a dig at you mate . you know what ford are like ,they done the mot . ill have to crawl under and have a look anyone have acces to diagrams of the parts at the rear ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef123 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, williamweb said: The tie bar is fixed with a bush and bolts on the underside of the wheel arch.Correct me Stef if I'm wrong. certainly was on the focus I've just repaired. you get a bolt and a ball joint type though. The ball joint type look exactly like the ones I've done on a mazda 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Yeah I appreciate that buddy,you really do have to nail them down to what they mean if you don't understand the description on work sheets.It's happened to me many times,lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Isn't the tie bar the rusty curved link behind the spring in your photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 No that is the rear upper suspension arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 got a picture .i take it its the ball joint in picture ? what is the actual name so i can order a couple please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff55 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 On 6/15/2017 at 7:34 PM, mrmetallica said: so fords dont know what they talking about ? it wouldnt be the first time............... :-D and i wouldnt be surprised if this supposed defect got absolutely no mention following an MOT from a trusted indepedent garage as my local dealership also has a habit of "fishing" for unnecessary work. i would do nothing at this point until you can clearly hear or feel issues with the suspension otherwise you could be wasting time & money trying to fix a fault thats not actually there..... or at least get a 2nd opinion and to be fair , your undercarriage looks in pretty good condition in that last picture compared to the rusty piece of junk Stefs working on ;-D........... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, mrmetallica said: got a picture .i take it its the ball joint in picture ? what is the actual name so i can order a couple please That's the rear Anti-roll bar link buddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, biff55 said: it wouldnt be the first time............... :-D and i wouldnt be surprised if this supposed defect got absolutely no mention following an MOT from a trusted indepedent garage as my local dealership also has a habit of "fishing" for unnecessary work. i would do nothing at this point until you can clearly hear or feel issues with the suspension otherwise you could be wasting time & money trying to fix a fault thats not actually there..... or at least get a 2nd opinion and to be fair , your undercarriage looks in pretty good condition in that last picture compared to the rusty piece of junk Stefs working on ;-D........... ive been to garages that have tried to get work out of me . was told once the a ball joint was worn after id replaced it the year before ,so just cleaned it up went back and they passed it .thought fords would be better than that . mot is up august so ill leave it see what happens .had them tell me my wipers need changing that was 5 years ago .still got them on and have passed every year lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, williamweb said: That's the rear Anti-roll bar link buddy. cheers mate . might be able to get some where now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Yeah looking at the link I can see where the ball joint description comes into play,lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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