Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 As some of you know I'm having issures with mondeo at the moment, If the EGR isn't the issure then I might have to do open heart surgery on it, I don't want to but i've got to find out whats causing my motor to constantly run on limp home mode. As Anyone done a major work on the engines of these motors? If so what are they like, timing chain, injector pump, cylinder head etc. Haven't had the Mondeo long, only 5 months, plus my infomation on Diesel engines isn't top noitch. If you can help that would be brilliant, I don't want to scarp other car again, like i did with the Probe because I regreted it ever since. If theres any updates I will post it on here, there will be photos and a video, hopefully with our combined technical know how I can slowly get this motor running 100% Ford Loyalty all the way. Many Thanks David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 I forgot to mention, what are the common faults related to the Mk3 Mondeo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegtuk Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Some of the many problems can be. DMF, split air hoses, reverse light switch, exterior door handles not working correctly, oil and water thermostats, injectors, bushes, water leaks (pollen filter, door membrane, tailgate), the list could go on. These are only a few, but bare in mind, people tend to mention the faults more than the car working so there are probably more cars without problems than with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 Thats true. mine smokes like anything, removed hoses cleaned them, Inlet manifold cover in crap gave them a clean too. EGR valve very bad the valve looks half way stuck more then anything. Once I've tryed to clean the egr the best I can, I'll put everything back together and start it again. Cold starting/ smokes like hell with a glow plug warning light constanly flashing non stop. However when engine temputure increases smoking stops, but the light is still there. Here's the topic I started a few days ago about the issure, All been listed on work carried out so far. http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/50572-working-on-the-mondeo-with-photos/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick85 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I wouldn go stripping ur engine without proper diagnostics it's not a mechanic engine issue what makin ur car go into limp mode u need good code reader check any faults stored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Hopefully soon all will become clear. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Update on EGR I've started cleaning it again, I've sprayed WD40 and let it soak for a day, came back from work this morning and started cleaning it. Its getting there, but still pretty clogged so I've added my secret weapon. Bleach. That will remove the crap from the valve that I couldn't gain acess too. My EGR is a mechanical type, not elterical which is great, if it was it would have been buggerd. Even a small amount of coco cola would do it. Used wet and dry to clean it up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick85 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 A bucket of petrol over night then toothbrush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 I'll try that as well. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Couldn't sleep so I went to the shed and checked out my bleech treatment, Its very good. Used a tooth brush and gave it a good going over, The valve should be able to move freely now. Sprayed some WD-40 afterwards to maintain the valve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Oh bugger I've lost the hose for the top of the EGR valve, been searching everywhere for it and can't seem to find it, not good. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry93 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I have stripped one of these down less than a year ago and rebuilt the engine, we had the same issue, was a cam shaft sensor and a glo plug had welded itself into the head, they do smoke up a lot in the winter though especially if high mileage, but you do not need the EGR, some people block them off to keep the engine clean and run better so I don't think it would be due to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry93 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 This is what I managed to do and done 10,000 miles since without even a slow oil leak runs great but have you done a test on your glo plugs to see if all are working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Glow plugs replaced 3 months ago, there in full working order :) Pressure release valve replaced a month before glow plug issure.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Inlet manifold, egr, hoses and air filter are back on. :) Before I start the car I'll record a video of it. I've ticked the boxes of faults that I thought it was, If its not the EGR, then cam sensor or timing could be a issure. Hopefully this will help a member that might have the same issure as mine. B) As Always I'll keep you all posted. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyntdci Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 hope this works for you dude..... fingers crossed ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 So do I. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry93 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 There are a few cam sensors out there, one has caused problems for a lot of cars, the good one is grey the poor one tends to be cream/beige colour. This caused the same problem as what you are describing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 I'll check that out too, that would cause my Fuel pressure on my injectors to differ, as its not getting the signal for the correct timing. My injector test result done in a garage a few weeks ago. bank 1 good bank 2 lower then back one bank 3 a little bit better then bank 2 bank 4 poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Where about is the cam sensor located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry93 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry93 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 As you look at the engine it is on the front of the cam carrier, hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 trying to get the videos up on photobucket of my car starting, but due to the file size I can't 1.2GB of memory used lol.Part 1 is buggerd which gives you all the evidence needed to find the fault. I've got part 2/ engine warm and idelingand part 3/ Mondeo drivingGuess other cold start 2moro is on the cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 I've uploaded the videos and here's the links to them. After checking everything first and replacing new clips for the hoses, cold starting is still a issure, but the smoking isn't has bad now since the EGR is cleaned, still its NOT the primary cause of my poor running issures. Hope fully these videos will give a better idea on whats going on, you may need to crank up the volume a bit to hear it. First start up engine ideling cols starting Test drive/ engine cold Engine ideling closer inspection of knocking or slapping type sound. Engine ideling/ getting warmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Loyalty MK3 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Cold starting is a nightmare. You have to put your foot all the way to the floor to keep it going and hope for the best. But when the engine warm you can turn if off few seconds start it no problem at all, With glow plug light still there, but a lot better to start and driver better when warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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