Matt 23 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 The engine malfunction light has been constantly showing on my 2009 focus Econetic for last two months. Had it since new and now 83'000 miles. Was doing 80miles a day to work and back until last year, now much shorter. I was told by local mechanic that it may be the DPF filter and to try additive and 30 minutes on motorway at high revs. I tried this and nothing happened. Decided to take the car to ford dealer at Inverurie today, got call back saying they would advise a regeneration programme which will cost me approx £400. £250 for additive and £150 to perform. Told me that there may also be other faults that they can't see until this one is cleared, although the regeneration may not do the trick. Anyone know whether this is the usual cost for this type of work? And whether this is true about not being able to see other fault codes until the DPF one is fixed? Any advice before I go back to garage tomorrow would be appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmand00 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 May be wrong but I didn't think you had an additive tank on your model tbh the eloys fluid was phased out as of 2009 and replaced with a ceramic dpf which is maintenance free so I would put your reg into etis and check the service schedule for your car and see wet her or not eloys refill is required at 37500m if not then your dealer is attempting to defraud you for charging for something that are are not actually doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 23 Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 Eolys176 refill required according to etis, thanks for pointer to this website. Will see what transpires tomorrow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Did you get this sorted? dont forget they have to do the reset process also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 23 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Warning light now out after DPF fluid change and regen. £280 for additive and £100 for performing regen. Total of £450 when including VAT. I'm sure it will be worth it for another 80000 miles of trouble free motoring! However still not sure why I couldn't do this myself, maybe it's was the quality of regen fluids I was trying (tried two different types ranging from £15 to nearly £30) the high Rev motorway method, or both that was wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Unfortunately, you will be lucky to see another 80k,these dog's normally need replying around every 60k, if you just did a regeneration and top up you will get some more out of it but I would expect the next dpf job is a replacement. As for the regeneration it depends how hard and for how long you did the regeneration on the motorway, what the temperature was inside and outside. If the engine is told to regenerate through a pc it optimises the conditions until it's forced to do it right (hence forced regeneration), however you were attempting to being on a regeneration through standard driving, which is the passive regeneration cycle. Fluids, performance and quality thereof may have played a part, though I wonder if it's more a case of no matter how you tried, you just couldn't reach the right passive conditions to do an equal job to the forced regeneration Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmand00 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 After thought but if you had an elm327 and the forscan software you can do a forced regeneration and save yourself the cost of a garage doing it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I thought that was how it was done initially... Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmand00 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I thought that was how it was done initially... Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk I've never been able to actually try it though tbh as it won't let you unless it's put the eml on with the dpf code first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Really? I thought you could force it whenever? I'm sure folks before you have done this without the eml on? Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmand00 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Really? I tried it again half hour ago just to see if I'd missed something but it won't allow me to do it.. I'm seriously wondering if my dpf has already been deleted by the previous owner I really need to pull the dpf and get a cam in there to see if it's there or not lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzman600 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Yes a forced regen can be done without an eml light showing etc. I successfully did one on my current 1.6 tdci mk3 focus and to a previous 2.2 tdci mondeo txs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzman600 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Using forscan and an EML327 reader and laptop (even works on windows xp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmand00 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Hmm I need to find out why I can't force regen mine then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmand00 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Apart from physically looking inside the dpf is there any other way of finding out if the previous owner had a dpf delete done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Disconnect a dpf sensor and see if I panics? Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmand00 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Will have a look when I'm back from work at the weekend but I think the cdpf equipped focus has no sensors? Lenny did his and was certain there's no sensors for the dpf on his and mine is exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 A aah I didn't see the year of your focus, if you don't indeed have the cdpf then you can try a forced regeneration through forscan and if it throws errors, that might help? Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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