12 hours ago, Steevo25 said:

@JPW I don't suppose you have the AsBuilt from your ACM in Forscan. It seems that the 6-speaker systems have a hex code of 0030. Your ACM came from a 9-speaker system so I just wondered if the AsBuilt 4 digit HEX code was different. 

It could be as simple as changing that code to change the ACM from one type to another. 

The seller said it came from car with DAB and 6 speakers. The screenshot is from new ACM and the only block available says 0030 which is the only block available.

BTW, I put 9 to 214 while I have the Sony bezel. Have to change to 8. 

Well I took the plunge and upgraded to V3.4. If I am totally honest, I am a bit underwhelmed by it.

On the positives, Cyanlabs have made a fantastic installer that is intuitive to use and works great. I have gained the latest maps and the navigation repeater now works on Google Maps.

But the layout is terrible. Why does it truncate the radio station names on the main screen when there is plenty of room to display them. Listening to Heart SX, it displays as Hear.....

I get radio logos on FM and DAB, but I used to get the same ones on V3.0. I can't get the Calm Screen but there is no way I am risking updating the APIM firmware for virtually no benefit.

I certainly wouldn't say the interface is more responsive than V3.0, to me it's the same or maybe even a little bit worse.

The worst thing about it is that I can now no longer browse my USB stick if the car is not stationary so my wife cannot select different music anymore even though she is in the passenger seat. Ford have disabled it. This means my USB is now practically useless.

We never mind, done now, and no going back. For me V3.0 was tidier overall, but the latest maps and the navigator repeater for google maps was a welcome addition.

I can definitely say its miles faster for me, than 3.0. I can also browse the USB drive by its folders etc... slightly different layout to 3.0 but its there...

Not intuitive though...

Browse > New search > scroll to the bottom and select Explore Device and I can then see files, folders and playlists

Mine will only let me browse when I stop the car. Once it's moving it disables it.

Mine does that too but the above browse option still works

Does is truncate your radio names on FM. It seems to only display the first 4 letters of a station name and then puts three dots when there seems plenty of space on the screen. The radio text is coming underneath fine and the logo is fine on the right.

I wonder if I have the same build as you. I went for the latest that was available.

This is what I mean by truncated. The station is Heart SX. But it doesn't do it for all station names. For example BBC Essex it shows the whole name.

 

This is the case on mine too. It appears to have a five character limit. If there is a space between station names, then it's fine, for example BBC Essex is okay because both words are 5 characters or less, but Smooth is 6 characters so it truncates at 5. Or at least that what appears to happen. I'm hopeful it's just a 3.4 bug and will be resolved in the next incremental release.

What happens if you turn the station logo and / or the text off?

According to the below post the option "Nav in motion" enables the browse whilst driving functionality... can't vouch for that though...

https://www.focusrs.org/threads/sync-3-4-upgrade.121400/post-2269100

On 2/9/2021 at 7:12 PM, Steevo25 said:

Unfortunately, you will have to make your settings to say 'With DAB' as that's what the donor car had. You have to configure your central configuration audio settings exactly as the donor car otherwise that DTC won't clear. 

The settings below you need to change but as per the donor car, not your actual car. 

73 - Loudspeaker quantities change to either 6 or 9 depending what the donor car had
112 - In car Entertainment change to 14 (3000nt series ice pack) for 9 speakers or 04 (High Level CD and AM/FM Radio) if the donor car had 6 speakers
120 - Centre speaker change to 01 (without) for 6 speaker system or 02 (centre speaker small) if the donor car had the 9 speaker system
123 – Audio Aux Input change the value to 01 (without)
125 – DAB Radio System change the value to 02 (with) or change to 01 (without) depending what the donor car had
154 – Module USB change the value to 01 (without)
157 – Bluetooth Handsfree change the value to 01 (without)
172 – Front Display change the value to 09 (DM8 with nav)
214 – ICP change the value to 09 (Unknown) if you use the MK3.5 panel or 08 (Branded ICP/Mini EFP) if you have the Sony US Panel.

It seems I have fixed DTC on ACM by changing 125 option to with DAB (option 2). Also changed 214 to 08 as I have sony panel (was set to 09). But last option has nothing to do with ACM. So, only needed to add DAB. Thanks for your post

 

Now trying to sort out U3000 on IPC which must be serious and probably fixed only with genuine UCDS (eeprom U3000 fix) which I do not have.

49 minutes ago, Arismfg said:

It seems I have fixed DTC on ACM by changing 125 option to with DAB (option 2). Also changed 214 to 08 as I have sony panel (was set to 09). But last option has nothing to do with ACM. So, only needed to add DAB. Thanks for your post

 

Now trying to sort out U3000 on IPC which must be serious and probably fixed only with genuine UCDS (eeprom U3000 fix) which I do not have.

Good news. Yes, #214 does not cause a DTC, it just makes it technically correct.

Not seen the IPC error, but U3000 seems to be related to communication. It's not just an error that shows for the IPC, but several modules can show that code. That's all I can see from the web.

@Steevo25 some more about USB browse whilst moving:

https://forscan.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=14937

I will have to give it a try. 

I hope they bring out a new build fairly soon for the little issues. 

19 hours ago, Steevo25 said:

Good news. Yes, #214 does not cause a DTC, it just makes it technically correct.

Not seen the IPC error, but U3000 seems to be related to communication. It's not just an error that shows for the IPC, but several modules can show that code. That's all I can see from the web.

Finally fixed U3000 DTC on IPC which could be as bad as corrupt eeprom. Luckily, it was simply that HW P/N could not be read. Fixed whatever was corrupted by force flashing all IPC files (took 50 min with UCDS) and now can read P/N and can write BCM asbuilt backup on it as normal.

Now, I have a U2101 DTC on IPC (I think I had this before together with the U3000) which means there is an option I have to find and change. BTW, there is a utility for U2101 DTCs called U2101 killer. Have not used yet as I am waiting for my ELS27 cable. People said it can help find which option must be changed. So, fingers crossed.

If it is a CCC option, I wonder which ones could be related to IPC.

Another question is, does anyone know if MSCAN is really needed for sync 3? I do not have that on harness. Could this be the reason, I cannot find APIM on forscan or UCDS (says no response like it's not there)

I know that climate control information goes over MS-CAN if you are using the climate repeater. I thought programming went over HS-CAN but maybe it does go through MS-CAN. 

RE the IPC. maybe it is worth downloading your original AsBuilt for the IPC. Try uploading that first. At least you can compare it with what you have at the moment and see what is different. 

1 hour ago, Steevo25 said:

I know that climate control information goes over MS-CAN if you are using the climate repeater. I thought programming went over HS-CAN but maybe it does go through MS-CAN. 

RE the IPC. maybe it is worth downloading your original AsBuilt for the IPC. Try uploading that first. At least you can compare it with what you have at the moment and see what is different. 

 

You are right about programming. It really uses HScan and pins 53 and 54. 19 and 20 are MMcan and are also HScan speedwise and may also be used for programming. All these are connected. Still cannot find APIM in poll module. Only thing missing is MSCAN which is not supposed to be needed on sync 3 but do not know if needed to actually detect APIM.

IPC swapped and is from another. My original IPC is different and probably different asbuilt. I will use U2101 killer to see if that helps. Could be a CCC option.

Well I just did a scan with my other scan tool which does not support MS-CAN. It still found the APIM and actually listed it under the HS-CAN bus.

Yes, I will definitely have to move pins 53 and 54 from BCM 7 and 8 (which are hscan) to CB32 11 and 10 (also HSCAN)  as per the guide. I hope this helps. Even though there is HScan for some reason, those cables  may not work with scan programs for some reason. 

I guess you are using CB32 too right for pins 53 and 54 right?

Fixed U2101 error on IPC too by using U2101 killer to check which option was causing it. Last thing to fix is APIM detection.

 Yes, I will definitely have to move pins 53 and 54 from BCM 7 and 8 (which are hscan) to CB32 11 and 10 (also HSCAN)  as per the guide. I hope this helps. Even though there is HScan for some reason, those cables  may not work with scan programs for some reason. 

I guess you are using CB32 too right for pins 53 and 54 right?

 

My HS-CAN was already at the Sync connector as I had Sync 1 before not BVC. 

I tried the 'Nav in Motion' fix to enable USB browsing and SatNav changes while on the move.

Don't do it. Effectively, what the 'Nav in Motion' fix does is change the country code to Gabon which is a country where there are no laws regarding using mobile devices on the move. 

Once you change this code, it confuses the whole car. I got loads of DTCs and the engine light came on. I also got no FM radio stations in the list and no station logos and a few other odd things on items like SatNav. 

This didn't happen immediately, it was fine after the change, but today whilst driving the car the engine light came on and when I got home and plugged my laptop in, I had about 8 DTCs on things like BCM, ABS, PCM. All complaining about CAN BUS etc. 

I have now changed it back to UK and will see how it is tomorrow. 

Anyone knows what short circuit to another output DTC means?

On 2/6/2021 at 11:16 PM, Steevo25 said:

Ok, I finally got to the bottom of this DTC if anyone is interested:

Yes was definitely interested and this worked for me a treat. Although, it didn't affect the car or radio, it was annoying. Thanks Steevo. The only DTC I have to sort now is antenna short or open circuit. 

There have been reported issues with the antenna not grounding properly to the car body causing antenna DTCs. The DTC is a bit misleading as it kind of says that the antenna has a short. What it is actually measuring is the resistance in the cable so any bad connection will change the resistance in the cable. 

All the solutions I have seen involve undoing the antenna and re-seating. A bit of a pain as you would have to pull the headlining down at the back. Also, a bad connection on the back of the ACM can cause the same thing.

What is the actual DTC?

2 hours ago, Steevo25 said:

What is the actual DTC?

I'll have a look tomorrow (the misses is tapping her foot with arms crossed!!!!)