jonner101 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 The best car I ever owned was stolen within seconds this evening 28th right outside my house. My Father arrived back home to see the car literally a few seconds after it was聽stolen. No broken windows so they must have somehow cloned the key fobs馃槳 Registration is HV15 BHW. Colour Red. The car was locked and I still have the 2 key fobs. My understanding is that they continuously emit a signal which the thieves can decode. Luckily no valuables in the car. If you see that registration please report to Police. Ford need to fix this as it's clearly a design fault. In the meanwhile you could put on a steering lock and various other measures 聽 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Tango Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Sadly this happens a lot, I purchased a DiskLok before I got the car and some key pouches聽 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Sorry to hear this, but they don't even need to clone or decode signal. They simply relay it. You should keep your keys away from the front door in a shielded pouch/metal tin to act as a Faraday cage and block the signal. Ford and other manufacturers are starting to fit motion sensors in new keys so the signal stops broadcasting all the time. As noted above, it's also worth considering extra security too as even with your keyes protected, they can hack cars through the OBD port, although that would initially trigger the alarm, so it's not as easy as keyless relay theft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonner101 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Thanks for the advice. I'll let my friends know, My sister has just purchased a nearly new聽car so will pass this information on. Sounds like a professional job then and there are many rural b roads around here so I don't hold out much hope for recovery. I'll take聽your advice when I get a new car 聽 Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Fwiw, this type of theft only works on keyless entry cars. You can also ask your dealer to disable the feature if your car includes it. I think some have started adding the option to a user configurable menu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonner101 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Thanks for the info, yes it was keyless entry model. 聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonner101 Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 Good news on this, a community officer saw the car parked in a rough part聽of town. They had changed the plates but the pcn check on the plates came up and either didn't match the serial number or something else. So currently in a Police pound having forensic checks done聽and so on. Insurance company will take a good look and change all the locks and possible repair any damage. Huge sigh of relief..... Should be back home soon 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WES180 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Im glad they've found it for you. It's just infuriating that some scumbags have caused the inconvenience, stress and now increased insurance premiums for 3-5yrs just for their bit of amusement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHead1979 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 9 hours ago, jonner101 said: Good news on this, a community officer saw the car parked in a rough part聽of town. They had changed the plates but the pcn check on the plates came up and either didn't match the serial number or something else. So currently in a Police pound having forensic checks done聽and so on. Insurance company will take a good look and change all the locks and possible repair any damage. Huge sigh of relief..... Should be back home soon I'm really pleased for you mate, I can't imagine how gutted you must have been when you realised it had been nicked and likely gone forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 That shows the value of having police officers or PCSOs out 'on the beat'. You're lucky you still have any. Many forces are cutting back under financial pressure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonner101 Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 Yes I'm super lucky and will be thanking the PCSO. It was just pure luck especially as the plates had been changed. Probably will suffer a big聽insurance quote increase on renewal. Anyways having been driving my loaner or courtesy car I can't wait to get her back. Any tips to get my next quote reduced would be appreciated. I had a 10 year protected NCB so my claim is still protected but the premium will increase... The 'real police' however didn't bother doing any forensics. This is a change in policy is that it's up to the officer in charge and would have been a routine before if a stolen car was recovered. I think I will exercise my victim's right and have this reviewed by a senior officer. Seems the police and the recovery garage couldn't unlock the car !! I will be going into a ford dealership at the weekend, partly to complain but find out if they can retrofit a more secure solution. Even so beyond excited that I'll get the car back now. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHead1979 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, jonner101 said: Yes I'm super lucky and will be thanking the PCSO. It was just pure luck especially as the plates had been changed. Probably will suffer a big聽insurance quote increase on renewal. Anyways having been driving my loaner or courtesy car I can't wait to get her back. Any tips to get my next quote reduced would be appreciated. I had a 10 year protected NCB so my claim is still protected but the premium will increase... The 'real police' however didn't bother doing any forensics. This is a change in policy is that it's up to the officer in charge and would have been a routine before if a stolen car was recovered. I think I will exercise my victim's right and have this reviewed by a senior officer. Seems the police and the recovery garage couldn't unlock the car !! I will be going into a ford dealership at the weekend, partly to complain but find out if they can retrofit a more secure solution. Even so beyond excited that I'll get the car back now. Regards. A full coverage steering lock will make life a LOT more difficult for a thief, something like this should be blatant enough that no-one is likely to waste their time even trying.聽 It'll also go nicely with anyone's "ASBO Orange" ST聽 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN@ADRIAN FLUX Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 8:01 PM, jonner101 said: Yes I'm super lucky and will be thanking the PCSO. It was just pure luck especially as the plates had been changed. Probably will suffer a big聽insurance quote increase on renewal. Anyways having been driving my loaner or courtesy car I can't wait to get her back. Any tips to get my next quote reduced would be appreciated. I had a 10 year protected NCB so my claim is still protected but the premium will increase... The 'real police' however didn't bother doing any forensics. This is a change in policy is that it's up to the officer in charge and would have been a routine before if a stolen car was recovered. I think I will exercise my victim's right and have this reviewed by a senior officer. Seems the police and the recovery garage couldn't unlock the car !! I will be going into a ford dealership at the weekend, partly to complain but find out if they can retrofit a more secure solution. Even so beyond excited that I'll get the car back now. Regards. Hi. That's good news then. If you do need any help with insurance come renewal time then please feel free to drop me a line. Regards, Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy42 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 As well as a visible deterrent like a steering lock, you need a hidden one.聽 I have fitted a hidden switch in the 12V supply to the petrol pump which means that, should the lowlife start the car, it will run for about 10 seconds and then cut out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I'm delighted that your car was recovered. I've always been cynical of 'keyless' security, and here's why. I've been a fan of Start Trek since the 60s. Whenever they held a prisoner in the brig, it was always secured by a 'force field'. The criminal always ended up escaping by disarming the electronic box! I could never understand, even at the tender age of 6, why they didn't just use an iron gate like old fashioned prisons. My view has not altered in 50 odd years - electronic boxes cannot beat a bit聽 of proper sheet metal! 聽 聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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