5 minutes ago, unofix said:

I would recommend looking over on the FORScan site and asking if they can help. Usually they seem to be a helpful lot and will work with you to try and sort your problem.

just heading there now thanks 

15 hours ago, unofix said:

I would recommend looking over on the FORScan site and asking if they can help. Usually they seem to be a helpful lot and will work with you to try and sort your problem.

I've popped a post on, but nothing as of yet.

 

I've done a fresh profile, everything matches and this is what ForScan is coming up with

 

Your car battery is below the minimum voltage to allow successful programming. You should have had the battery constantly on charge or connected to a battery maintainer while updating the modules. Battery voltage needs to be at least 12.42V to ensure error free data updates.

Also it is saying that the PATS key is not programmed which will be the reason for the no crank / no start.

3 minutes ago, unofix said:

Your car battery is below the minimum voltage to allow successful programming. You should have had the battery constantly on charge or connected to a battery maintainer while updating the modules. Battery voltage needs to be at least 12.42V to ensure error free data updates.

Also it is saying that the PATS key is not programmed which will be the reason for the no crank / no start.

yeah I knew it was low, I had it on charge yesterday whilst programming, took everything in last night and just plugged it in to show what it said to you.

 

So the crank will be the key not programmed, I was reading last night that you can buy a two day license to programme the keys have you seen/heard anything about this?

 

Also I still don't seem to have any dash lights, im wondering if that it is a connection error or is it that the key needs to be programmed for the dash to register?

Sorry, but as I've said before FORScan does not have the ability to programme keys in to the vehicle after 2013.

You are going to need a Ford dealer to programme in the keys, unless someone knows different. You can get a free two month licensed trial of the full version of FORScan (but it still won't programme keys for vehicles after 2013).

Perhaps @JW1982 will be able to offer you some advice on the no lights on dashboard issue ?

So I have someone coming to programme keys, he is a auto locksmith, that is ok.

but still no dash, I’ve spent hours looking at wiring diagrams to find which wires go to the instrument cluster but cannot find the c6 connection that goes to the BCM to see which wire it would be.

 

I don’t know what else to search for, I’ve checked the fuses and they are all ok, I’m just getting rather frustrated now 😂

12 minutes ago, pabolo58 said:

cannot find the c6 connection that goes to the BCM

Do you mean the physical location of C6 in the vehicle, or the connector C6 on the wiring schematic  ?

17 minutes ago, unofix said:

Do you mean the physical location of C6 in the vehicle, or the connector C6 on the wiring schematic  

the wiring schematic for the C6 connector just in case I have made an error when re pinning, I did it one by one but I’m confused why the dash won’t come back on

5 hours ago, pabolo58 said:

the wiring schematic for the C6 connector

C6 of the BCM is connector C2280D

• SIDE ONE
• Pin 1 = CLF05 -- BU/GN
• Pin 2 = CLF04 -- BN/BU
• Pin 3 =
• Pin 4 =
• Pin 5 =
• Pin 6 =
• Pin 7 =
• Pin 8 = SYV01 -- RD
• Pin 9 = CBB41 -- BU

________________________________________________

• SIDE TWO
• Pin 10 = CLF03 -- VT/OG
• Pin 11 = CLF02 -- GY/BN
• Pin 12 =
• Pin 13 =
• Pin 14 = CDC01 -- GN/VT
• Pin 15 =
• Pin 16 = SBP26 -- YE/RD *
• Pin 17 =
• Pin 18 = CLF34 -- YE/OG
• Pin 19 = CLF29 -- BN
• Pin 20 = SBP26 -- YE/RD *   or = CRW24 -- GY (depends on model)

1 hour ago, unofix said:

C6 of the BCM is connector C2280D

I don’t know if I’m looking at the wrong diagram as I cannot seem to find that connector 🤯

1 minute ago, pabolo58 said:

I don’t know if I’m looking at the wrong diagram as I cannot seem to find that connector

There is no 'one page' of connector C2280D, it is split out over many pages of the schematic. See the table I've put together above which should help. Not all pins of the connector are used.

25 minutes ago, unofix said:

There is no 'one page' of connector C2280D, it is split out over many pages of the schematic. See the table I've put together above which should help. Not all pins of the connector are used.

Does it say which pins go to the instrument panel?

11 hours ago, pabolo58 said:

Does it say which pins go to the instrument panel?

None of them.

The table below is for a USA 2014 Focus 2.0 petrol. Almost the same as my own table I posted above.

Is it possible for me to access the diagrams you are looking at? I’m determined to try and find this problem 🤣

10 hours ago, pabolo58 said:

Is it possible for me to access the diagrams you are looking at?

Here is the link to the full Ford Focus 2014 schematics on my Google drive.

Download and unzip the folder. Use Adobe to open the index page and then you can search each circuit

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ygw_8qo_jZTcuO2QWlQKO8vK4RbUl-ab/view?usp=sharing

4 hours ago, unofix said:

Here is the link to the full Ford Focus 2014 schematics on my Google drive.

Download and unzip the folder. Use Adobe to open the index page and then you can search each circuit

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ygw_8qo_jZTcuO2QWlQKO8vK4RbUl-ab/view?usp=sharing

Thank you so much. You are amazing! I'll download it later, I've not done anything with the car today, I've learnt its best to walk away and come back when I'm not frustrated 😅

Ok sat I’ve been in the car most of the day and still none the wiser, I’m struggling to find the root cause…

 

I’ve placed the old BCM in to see if the dash comes up but it doesn’t.

I have power to the fans which I can switch on but doesn’t seem to heat nor change direction when you turn the dial, wondering if this is connected…seems like I’m searching for a needle in a haystack 

1 hour ago, pabolo58 said:

I can switch on but doesn’t seem to heat nor change direction when you turn the dial,

You're getting distracted and going off course !!! Forget about the heater (it only works when the engine is running)

Back to basics. Has the BCM got a supply and a ground ? Remove the plug C2280G from the BCM. Use a meter and check the plug (not the socket on the BCM) that both the yellow(pin1) and red(pin2) cables have a 12 positive supply with respect to ground.

Remove the plug C2280A and check on the plug (not the socket on the BCM) that pin 3 is ground.

Remove the plug C2280E and check on the plug (not the socket on the BCM) that pin 2 is ground

 

 

23 hours ago, unofix said:

Back to basics. Has the BCM got a supply and a ground ? Remove the plug C2280G from the BCM. Use a meter and check the plug (not the socket on the BCM) that both the yellow(pin1) and red(pin2) cables have a 12 positive supply with respect to ground.

Remove the plug C2280A and check on the plug (not the socket on the BCM) that pin 3 is ground.

Remove the plug C2280E and check on the plug (not the socket on the BCM) that pin 2 is ground

 

 

Ok, so details are as followed...

on connector C2280D Pin 1 = 11.9    Pin 2 = 11.8    both pins go from 12.2 then drop down to those figures

On both the other connecter the reading are 12.2

 

 

1 hour ago, pabolo58 said:

on connector C2280D Pin 1 = 11.9    Pin 2 = 11.8 

Is that just a typo ?

It is connector C2280G pins 1 and 2 that you were testing for 12V

I'll assume that it is just a typo so onwards and upwards as they say. So that means the BCM has got a supply.

With all the plugs reconnected to the BCM, with the exception of C2208D, I need you to use the multimeter to check the following pins on the BCM. Switch on your low beam headlights (dipped beam) and check Pin 1 and then pin 2 of the socket, both should be 12V

Then put the main beam headlights on, you might need to turn the ignition on for those. Check pin 10 and then pin 11, both should have 12 v positive on them.

 

12 minutes ago, unofix said:

Is that just a typo ?

It is connector C2280G pins 1 and 2 that you were testing for 12V

I'll assume that it is just a typo so onwards and upwards as they say. So that means the BCM has got a supply.

With all the plugs reconnected to the BCM, with the exception of C2208D, I need you to use the multimeter to check the following pins on the BCM. Switch on your low beam headlights (dipped beam) and check Pin 1 and then pin 2 of the socket, both should be 12V

Then put the main beam headlights on (you might need to turn the ignition on for those. Check pin 10 and then pin 11, both should have 12 v positive on them.

 

Yes it was a typo apologies, Off I go to try this will be back shortly

ok so with the meter...

Low beam pin 1 and pin 2 there is no voltage

Main beam pin 10 and pin 11 this is also nothing 

 

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OH !!! 🙄

That's bad.

That would mean the BCM is dead. Is it possible for you to reinstall the original BCM and repeat the same tests ?

Something seems very wrong. It's like the Canbus system is down and not communicating.

will report back once done it, car is now on my drive so easy to get too

ok so plugged the old one in, retested, that's the same...

Plugged the new one back in, retested, same results, however tested pin 1 and 2 on main beam and get 11.9... but nothing on pin 10 and 11...