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On 2/28/2024 at 10:27 AM, Bol said:

At least here, prenium summer tyres surpass (a lot) four season tyres on wet and dry.

My experience with crossclimates 1 was not the best. ABS activated a lot on wet.

 

once we drop below 7C most summer tyres have vastly reduced performance and just about anything designed for colder temp will perform better ... and the cross climate did 10kph more than a  summer tyre before it was a boat !

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Designed to guarantee optimal performance in temperatures higher than 7°C, summer tyres perform best on dry and wet roads and are particularly useful in places where temperatures often reach over 35°C for occasional or even prolonged periods of time. 

The problem with these tyres is that the rubber hardens once the temperature starts to fall below 7°C, rendering them less effective in winter, especially on wet ground. 

As a result, if you drive with summer tyres in cold wintery conditions, you are putting yourself at risk. This is particularly dangerous if you find yourself driving in snow with summer tyres on your vehicle, as your braking distance is generally two times longer than if you had certified winter tyres. 

 

see yellow bar for death when cold

The question which is the best all season tyre overall or for the place someone lives.

I shall report after testing the Goodyear Vector.

Now it is too early.

37 minutes ago, Bol said:

The question which is the best all season tyre overall or for the place someone lives.

I shall report after testing the Goodyear Vector.

Now, we'll expect updates every 2 weeks, along with accompanying Excel spreadsheets with hard evidence of atmospheric pressure, wind speed, ambient temperature, road temperature, road speeds tested etc etc., We all need to make a thoroughly informed decision on this most important issue... 😁

I used mine in snow last Saturday, drove up some inclines ok and felt good on fresh snow. For me adequate enough.

9 minutes ago, Frembrit said:

I used mine in snow last Saturday, drove up some inclines ok and felt good on fresh snow. For me adequate enough.

Which tyres

On 2/29/2024 at 1:27 PM, Frembrit said:

I have Goodyear Vector 4seasons on my standard 19" wheels. I chose these as they are more wet biased than the Cross Climate's. They perform very well so far in the cold, wet and warmer days (in the UK) since they were fitted at the beginning of December 2023, obvious I've not used them in the summer yet so can't comment on that and also no snow this year in the south West UK so far. I was going to get these in 18" for my "winter" wheels (normally with winter tyres) but my 19's also needed to be replaced (normally Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's) and couldn't justify two sets of tyres as I'll most likely sell the car later this year.

see previous post from myself.

Nice.

So they nice on wet and snow.

4 minutes ago, Bol said:

Nice.

So they nice on wet and snow.

...and gravel, and tarmac, and wet fields, and solid ice... LOL

1 minute ago, StephenFord said:

and gravel, and tarmac, and wet fields, and solid ice

a bit rubbish on clarts but that's a North East thing so he should be alright 🤣

Bridgestone weather control after 20000km - 2 years.

Some parts were torn apart.

 

Ted Kravitz would love this thread. Loves a bit of tyre chat does Ted.

3 hours ago, smr said:

Ted Kravitz would love this thread. Loves a bit of tyre chat does Ted.

Best bit of F1 coverage, his 'notebook'! 😊

Top dog no more...

https://jalopnik.com/michelin-crossclimate-2-is-no-longer-the-king-of-all-se-1851325687

No Goodyear in this test. No hankook also.

Continental and Pirelli are top although all these years they werent.

if we can drag this out a bit longer it will all be irrelevant - as climate change will see us at +40C all year

So far. Goodyear vector 3 all season tyres are excellent.

Excellent grip on dry and on wet.

Strong braking.

Nice and safe grip even for sport driving.

3 minutes ago, Bol said:

Nice and safe grip even for sport driving.

That's great news with the Australian F1 this weekend. I'm sure you can show that Verstappen a thing or two as you whizz past him on the way to the podium on your super dooper tires... 🤣

After about six months of driving (very cold, rain, wet, dry, asphalt, dirt, even in hot weather) the Goodyear Vector four seasons are fine. Even in fast - sporty driving, the grip is satisfactory. Obviously, they are not excellent for completely sporty driving and cornering, but they are very nice. However, it is still the first year and the first summer they are going through.

 

Nice grip overall.

Safe and nice even on very hot weather (over 40 degrees Celsius).

Nice on dry.

Nice (better than dry) on wet.

Nice on cold weather.

Not tested on snow or ice yet.

 

Got 2 x Kumho HS52 Ecsta fitted this week. Haven't skidded off road once, and it's been raining all day everyday. Temperatures between 14c to 18c. Every time I've come across a red traffic light, the car came to a perfect stop.

Going round a roundabout they've been perfect, keeping the car fully on the road, even at speeds right up to 30mph. A bit too soon to comment on attrition, but I've high hopes for this cheap little tire. Great tread pattern which is the envy of all my neighbours.

Looking forward to testing them properly in our summer, which I believe will be next Wednesday.

After eight months and about 10000km (or more) Goodyear vector all season gen 3 are very nice. Very nice grip on wet, dry, hot and cold.

On very hot conditions and sport driving they performed really well (although it is still first year - less than 20000 km - not as well as 10-25C temperature - they are not made for sport driving).

 

 

 

Recently the best reviewed all seasons tyres are Pirelli Cinturato.

But time and real drivers will tell if and how will perform and endure in real conditions (and any condition) and after 2-3 years or after long mileage .